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Next week

Post: # 2053350Post nostalgicsaint »

Next week.

Out: Membrey
In: Hayes/King

Out: Jones
In: Dow

Out: Cordy
In: Howard


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Pou needs a spell


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Re: Next week

Post: # 2053367Post Otiman »

I thought Cordy is doing OK, but Howard is a much better option.


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Re: Next week

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chook23 wrote: Thu 18 Apr 2024 10:35pm Pou needs a spell
Pou to sub


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chook23 wrote: Thu 18 Apr 2024 10:35pm Pou needs a spell
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Re: Next week

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A coach with vision for the future doesn't recruit rejects like Cordy and Bonner and give them important roles in the team.
Their talent level is average and their upside is minimal.


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Re: Next week

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saintkid wrote: Thu 18 Apr 2024 10:54pm A coach with vision for the future doesn't recruit rejects like Cordy and Bonner and give them important roles in the team.
Their talent level is average and their upside is minimal.
Let's be honest...the talent across the whole team is very average and has been massively overrated on the back of the Messiahs return.


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Post: # 2053427Post B.M »

Besides a 5 game stretch at the start of last season

10w 15l

Where we surprised the opposition - and we then limped into finals - winning 8 of the next 19

We have been s***


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Re: Next week

Post: # 2053503Post saintbob »

Out:
Butler
Pou
Sharman
Byrnes
Bonner
Stocker
Higgins
Cordy

Ins:
Shoey
Hastie
Collard
Howard
Dow
Keeler
Hotton
Campbell

Let’s have a look at some of these blokes


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f*** next week.

More of the same trash.


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Re: Next week

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chook23 wrote: Thu 18 Apr 2024 10:35pm Pou needs a spell
If he were a racehorse, he be straight to the paddock. Three Group races in 12 days, will slaughter and promising young colt.


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Big Max wrote: Fri 19 Apr 2024 12:33am
chook23 wrote: Thu 18 Apr 2024 10:35pm Pou needs a spell
If he were a racehorse, he be straight to the paddock. Three Group races in 12 days, will slaughter and promising young colt.
Get the curtain out. Straight to the glue factory


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nostalgicsaint wrote: Thu 18 Apr 2024 10:34pm
Out: Membrey
In: Hayes/King
What is it with fans?

What else could Membrey do when he's asked to fill spaces in the backline most of the time.

Same thing with Higgins and Owens and Sharman.

We just need our midfield to lift. We need to work on our game. Our forwards are competent imo.


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Re: Next week

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I dont think Pou will get a rest (even if he needs it) at least until he re- signs.


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Re: Next week

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saintkid wrote: Thu 18 Apr 2024 10:54pm A coach with vision for the future doesn't recruit rejects like Cordy and Bonner and give them important roles in the team.
Their talent level is average and their upside is minimal.
I’m pretty sure Bonner is playing because Webster isn’t. Cordy played last year as forward because we had no others for the first part of the year.

The only other time he’s played when Howard could’ve is the final last year. And last night (even tho Howard hasn’t played a single game at Sandy).

I get the criticism but you're off the mark here - if anything you could say he’s played/playing too many kids.

Better get used last night - we’ll have a couple more of those in 2024


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Saintmatt wrote: Fri 19 Apr 2024 3:03pmAnd last night (even tho Howard hasn’t played a single game at Sandy).
Howard played last weekend for Sandy at Manuka in the curtain raiser, picked up 18 disposals and 9 marks.

FWIW I think Cordy has been generally pretty solid this year in Howard's absence. It's good to have someone as backup here, I worry what would happen for our team structure if Wilkie or Marshall went down with injury.


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I agree with Saintmatt. The reason Bonner and Cordy are playing (as per previous poster) is because of injuries to 6-7 of our regular first 22.

I think they've done well and performed as best as they could and to a pretty high personal standard. They're not stars, but they've played their roles.

We can learn from this for next year. I hope match committee were paying attention and I hope Ross is strong enough to manage players instead of playing them every single bloody game.

Look at Brad Couch. The guy wasn't rested at all last year. It takes its toll. There's consequences for pushing players. They're not machines

The benefit of having Bonner and Cordy in the squad is that they could be used when the fixture demands that St Kilda plays 3 games in 12 days next year.

Let's use this year as a true year of experimentation. Who gives a damn trying to finish 9th or 10th.

The other blokes that need a break are Marshall, Steele, Byrnes, Pou, Wilson and Sebby among others. We have guys in the VFL like Keeler, Moose, Collard, Hastie, and others that we can throw in the mix.

With Dow, Clark, and Henry coming in AND with Stocker, Battle and Owens able to spend time in the midfield, we can manage more players.


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saintkid wrote: Thu 18 Apr 2024 10:54pm A coach with vision for the future doesn't recruit rejects like Cordy and Bonner and give them important roles in the team.
Their talent level is average and their upside is minimal.
You'll find that Cordy was recruited just before RTB's arrival. That decision was made by the Ratten regime.


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Kick-it-lace-out wrote: Fri 19 Apr 2024 3:43pm
saintkid wrote: Thu 18 Apr 2024 10:54pm A coach with vision for the future doesn't recruit rejects like Cordy and Bonner and give them important roles in the team.
Their talent level is average and their upside is minimal.
You'll find that Cordy was recruited just before RTB's arrival. That decision was made by the Ratten regime.
Correction. It was the Toce, Gallagher, Ratten and Lethlean regime


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Re: Next week

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And Cordy was recruited as back up - because after Howard, Wilkie and Battle who did we have as a KPP defender?

So Cordy replaced Frawley

Both Cordy and Frawley played at AFL level because we have had injuries - and the kids of KPP size are still developing (when not injured)

For some height in defence we have deployed Sharman, 193cm and 80kgs and with a leap

Compare those stats to May, the same height but over 100kgs so able to command space


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Re: Next week

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Membrey kicked 3 goals, he's not going to be dropped.
King will come in for either Caminiti or Sharman.
Howard sill come in, but Cordy would be stiff to be dropped because he's actually been serviceable to good so far.
Butler will need to be replaced so maybe Collard.
I agree that Pou needs a spell, but we don't have much to bring back in.
Dow, if fit, could be the sub.


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Re: Next week

Post: # 2053755Post saintkid »

The fact of the matter is recruiting Frawley, Cordy and now Bonner are all dumb decisions. Their upside is minimal. Look for a Wilkie type again with potential or someone with some X-factor. Collingwood found a few and have another flag in the bag. Melbourne the same and finally got another flag. The Western Bulldogs list is on the up again after breaking their flag drought in 2016 and Carlton are on their way up again too. We have gone nowhere with our player list management since 2010 and no closer to a flag after 14 years.


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Re: Next week

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We are not close but we are closer.


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Re: Next week

Post: # 2053763Post saintkid »

Yorkeys wrote: Fri 19 Apr 2024 11:11pm We are not close but we are closer.
Not good enough at all still after 14 years. Essendon got decimated after the drugs scandal and watching them the last few weeks shows how much ground they have made up too with their playing personnel.


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Re: Next week

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saintkid wrote: Fri 19 Apr 2024 10:59pm The fact of the matter is recruiting Frawley, Cordy and now Bonner are all dumb decisions. Their upside is minimal. Look for a Wilkie type again with potential or someone with some X-factor. Collingwood found a few and have another flag in the bag. Melbourne the same and finally got another flag. The Western Bulldogs list is on the up again after breaking their flag drought in 2016 and Carlton are on their way up again too. We have gone nowhere with our player list management since 2010 and no closer to a flag after 14 years.
Cordy is depth - we didn't realise it at the time but it's clear now.

Bonner is to release Sinclair to the midfield.

Frawley was a jobs for mates mistake.

We paid nothing in draft picks for any of them.


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