Mini history of the Saints- St Kilda

saintbrat · Post: # 686113Post **saintbrat** » Mon 15 Dec 2008 9:38pm

in recent days it has come to light that some of the younger supporters have missed on learning some of the Vital pieces of Saints history

can we create a list of what makes " the Saints"

add ONE memory or piece of St Kilda history that you think is important.(I realise some have many pieces they could add-Maybe add One per day)

let see what we can teach them.

# St Kilda used to get players from the Ballarat area when all clubs had Zones to draft their players from- ( dates will be supplied by someone.

Mr Magic · Post: # 686116Post **Mr Magic** » Mon 15 Dec 2008 9:45pm

Who can remember the names of the players we got from our Ballarat zone?
In no pasrticular order
Danny Frawley
Tony Lockett
Greg Burns
Val Perovic
Geoff Cunningham
Darryl Cunningham (Geoff's little brother)
Gary Lofts

Maybe tomorrow we can discuss our metropolitan zone down Nepean Highway which gave us some fantastic players but was taken away from us and given to Hawthorn just before a whole heap of Football Legends started playing?

PJ · Post: # 686120Post PJ » Mon 15 Dec 2008 9:51pm

With the addition of our latest red head Lynchy perhaps people might

remember some stories of another firey red by the name of Alan Davis

Story - starting a puch up before the umps had even bounced the ball.

Launched into his opponent as soon as he arrived. Seriously agro player.

Mr Magic · Post: # 686122Post **Mr Magic** » Mon 15 Dec 2008 9:52pm

PJ wrote:With the addition of our latest red head Lynchy perhaps people might

remember some stories of another firey red by the name of Alan Davis

Story - starting a puch up before the umps had even bounced the ball.

Launched into his opponent as soon as he arrived. Seriously agro player.

And his son Chad?

PJ · Post: # 686127Post PJ » Mon 15 Dec 2008 10:01pm

Chad was pretty tough - I remember him being stretchered off after a big

hit - but his old man was just mean.

Does anyone remember the day Paul Callery(spelling??) died for a few

seconds on the ground before being revived?

Can't remember exactly what happened but I remember how serious it

was.

saintbrat · Post: # 686129Post **saintbrat** » Mon 15 Dec 2008 10:01pm

Mr Magic wrote:Who can remember the names of the players we got from our Ballarat zone?
In no pasrticular order
Danny Frawley
Tony Lockett
Greg Burns
Val Perovic
Geoff Cunningham
Darryl Cunningham (Geoff's little brother)
Gary Lofts

?

and a Best and fairest winner- Peter Kiel

Mr Magic · Post: # 686130Post **Mr Magic** » Mon 15 Dec 2008 10:03pm

saintbrat wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Who can remember the names of the players we got from our Ballarat zone?
In no pasrticular order
Danny Frawley
Tony Lockett
Greg Burns
Val Perovic
Geoff Cunningham
Darryl Cunningham (Geoff's little brother)
Gary Lofts

?
and a Best and fairest winner- Peter Kiel

was Gary Odgers from up that way?

bergsone · Post: # 686133Post **bergsone** » Mon 15 Dec 2008 10:06pm

Mr Magic wrote:
saintbrat wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Who can remember the names of the players we got from our Ballarat zone?
In no pasrticular order
Danny Frawley
Tony Lockett
Greg Burns
Val Perovic
Geoff Cunningham
Darryl Cunningham (Geoff's little brother)
Gary Lofts

?
and a Best and fairest winner- Peter Kiel
was Gary Odgers from up that way?

R tweedale D Disher?

Bernard Shakey · Mon 15 Dec 2008 10:07pm

Mr Magic wrote:Who can remember the names of the players we got from our Ballarat zone?
In no pasrticular order
Danny Frawley
Tony Lockett
Greg Burns
Val Perovic
Geoff Cunningham
Darryl Cunningham (Geoff's little brother)
Gary Lofts

Robbie Muir

starsign · Post: # 686144Post **starsign** » Mon 15 Dec 2008 10:47pm

got a feeling that Paul Callery swallowed his tongue

saintbrat · Post: # 686194Post **saintbrat** » Tue 16 Dec 2008 8:25am

starsign wrote:got a feeling that Paul Callery swallowed his tongue

I remember him going down- and then the saints came back from ......... down to beat Hawthorn?
being height challenged myself it just made me stick up for the short guy even more

Ross Smith, Callery, Keil, Burke..................

saint66au · Post: # 686201Post **saint66au** » Tue 16 Dec 2008 8:49am

bergsone wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:
saintbrat wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Who can remember the names of the players we got from our Ballarat zone?
In no pasrticular order
Danny Frawley
Tony Lockett
Greg Burns
Val Perovic
Geoff Cunningham
Darryl Cunningham (Geoff's little brother)
Gary Lofts

?
and a Best and fairest winner- Peter Kiel
was Gary Odgers from up that way?
R tweedale D Disher?

LOL..Don Discher..the worst case of 70's bush footy aggro in the VFL. Thumped Ray Shaw at Victoria Park one day and had to be restrained from taking on the umpire.

Greg Packham also from up that way...."Basketball" Bill Mildenhall too?

PJ · Post: # 686202Post PJ » Tue 16 Dec 2008 8:57am

Does anyone recall a player by the name of James O'Dea?

Recall he had a mysterious encounter with a fella by the name of John Greening.

Don't think Collingwood will forget that one.

Jimmy never returned to himself after that.

Mr X from the West · Tue 16 Dec 2008 12:30pm

saint66au wrote:
bergsone wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:
saintbrat wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Who can remember the names of the players we got from our Ballarat zone?
In no pasrticular order
Danny Frawley
Tony Lockett
Greg Burns
Val Perovic
Geoff Cunningham
Darryl Cunningham (Geoff's little brother)
Gary Lofts

?
and a Best and fairest winner- Peter Kiel
was Gary Odgers from up that way?
R tweedale D Disher?
LOL..Don Discher..the worst case of 70's bush footy aggro in the VFL. Thumped Ray Shaw at Victoria Park one day and had to be restrained from taking on the umpire.

Greg Packham also from up that way...."Basketball" Bill Mildenhall too?

I was actually at Vic Park the day that Don Discher went ape-droppings. One of the funniest things I've seen in footy. He hit someone, got reported, then a few minutes later, he hit someone else, thinking the umpire wasn't looking. Problem was - the umpire was not only looking, he was about two metres away, and pulled out his book shaking his head and similing. Don Discher - quire possibly the worst player we've ever had at our great club.

And yes - "Greaser" Odgers was from Ballarat. Great sportsman - could have played cricket for Australia if he hadn't chosen footy. Just like Greg Packham - great all round sportsmen.

Post: # 686474Post **n1ck** » Tue 16 Dec 2008 12:38pm

saint66au wrote:
bergsone wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:
saintbrat wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Who can remember the names of the players we got from our Ballarat zone?
In no pasrticular order
Danny Frawley
Tony Lockett
Greg Burns
Val Perovic
Geoff Cunningham
Darryl Cunningham (Geoff's little brother)
Gary Lofts

?
and a Best and fairest winner- Peter Kiel
was Gary Odgers from up that way?
R tweedale D Disher?
LOL..Don Discher..the worst case of 70's bush footy aggro in the VFL. Thumped Ray Shaw at Victoria Park one day and had to be restrained from taking on the umpire.

Greg Packham also from up that way...."Basketball" Bill Mildenhall too?

Can hardly blame him for smacking one of the Shaws though, eh 66?!

Batnoe · Post: # 686491Post **Batnoe** » Tue 16 Dec 2008 12:49pm

1 Premiership on an average of over 100 years

26 Wooden spoons on an average of about 4 years

we didnt win our first game for 8 years..

we used to wear red black and yellow- but changed to white after WW1 and we looked like the Germans (our enemy at the time)

We closed down during the war, the saints had no team

Post: # 686494Post **n1ck** » Tue 16 Dec 2008 12:51pm

Batnoe wrote:we didnt win our first game for 8 years..

I tihnk it was 4 years... 40 odd games in a row without a win.

marksnsparks · Tue 16 Dec 2008 1:01pm

St Kilda is worth 12 in Scrabble which is also the number of our captain and the number of flags St Kilda will have won by the year 3000.

Hurricane · Post: # 686504Post **Hurricane** » Tue 16 Dec 2008 1:06pm

Batnoe wrote:we used to wear red black and yellow- but changed to white after WW1 and we looked like the Germans (our enemy at the time)

We wore red, black and white until the war years when we changed to yellow (the colours of an ally Belgum) to aviod having the same colours as the Nazis. We switched back to white after the war ended

BANG BANG

Batnoe · Post: # 686506Post **Batnoe** » Tue 16 Dec 2008 1:09pm

Hurricane wrote:
Batnoe wrote:we used to wear red black and yellow- but changed to white after WW1 and we looked like the Germans (our enemy at the time)
We wore red, black and white until the war years when we changed to yellow (the colours of an ally Belgum) to aviod having the same colours as the Nazis. We switched back to white after the war ended

BANG BANG

haha, thanks for clearing that up... i knew it was soemthing like that

skeptic · Post: # 686509Post **skeptic** » Tue 16 Dec 2008 1:11pm

I'm pretty sure we lost every game for the first 2 seasons (or maybe 3), won round 1 the next season then lost all the remaining games that season.

Post: # 686513Post **n1ck** » Tue 16 Dec 2008 1:14pm

You're correct skeptic.

"The Saints' first VFL fixture resulted in a fighting 25 point loss to reigning VFA premiers Collingwood, but this proved to be arguably the highlight of a miserable season which yielded no victories whatsoever. Indeed, on three occasions, against South Melbourne in rounds 3 and 10, and against eventual premiers Essendon in round 12, the Saints failed to register a single goal.

Things did not improve during either of the subsequent two seasons and St Kilda entered the twentieth century without having achieved a single VFL win (or even a draw) from 48 consecutive matches, [see footnote 4] a sequence of failure which remains unparalleled to this day.

The breakthrough finally arrived, in somewhat controversial fashion, in the opening round of the 1900 season against Melbourne. The game ended with the scores level at St Kilda 10.8 (68) to Melbourne 9.14 (68) but St Kilda protested to the league that one of Melbourne's behinds ought not to have been counted as it had come from a mark taken after the three quarter time bell had rung. Sensationally, the VFL endorsed the protest, and the official scores of the match were amended to show St Kilda as the winners by the narrowest of margins.

Success disappeared as swiftly and almost as comprehensively as it had emerged with the Saints failing to achieve any further wins all year. The 1901 season brought a similar story, with the only victory for the year being at the expense of Carlton."

Anyone looking for St Kilda history should look at this website:

http://www.fullpointsfooty.net/St_Kilda_part_1.htm

Batnoe · Post: # 686517Post **Batnoe** » Tue 16 Dec 2008 1:24pm

and this is why i like the St.Kilda footy club!

Go saints

degruch · Post: # 686523Post **degruch** » Tue 16 Dec 2008 1:35pm

We've had lots of players named Robert Neil (?)

terry smith rules · Tue 16 Dec 2008 1:44pm

n1ck wrote:
saint66au wrote:
bergsone wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:
saintbrat wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:Who can remember the names of the players we got from our Ballarat zone?
In no pasrticular order
Danny Frawley
Tony Lockett
Greg Burns
Val Perovic
Geoff Cunningham
Darryl Cunningham (Geoff's little brother)
Gary Lofts

?
and a Best and fairest winner- Peter Kiel
was Gary Odgers from up that way?
R tweedale D Disher?
LOL..Don Discher..the worst case of 70's bush footy aggro in the VFL. Thumped Ray Shaw at Victoria Park one day and had to be restrained from taking on the umpire.

Greg Packham also from up that way...."Basketball" Bill Mildenhall too?

not Bill Mildenhall

Maurice O' Keefe
Graham Gellie from Derrinallum I think but was certainly associated with Redan
Jeff Dunne