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BEGLEY/DAWSON > COUSINS/CARROLL

Post: # 690310Post CaptainRiewoldt »

We were going to take Cousins, Carroll instead took Begley and Dawson.

I am for one happy. Dawson could be anything, OH NO he was beaten by Rocca in his prime when Dawson was 3kg and only 18 years old!!!

Obviously Cousins > Begley but Begley a clean unit only 23 could be anything.

We did the right thing. 2 players that wont dishonor the club and could be there for 10 years. Why take the risk with trouble makers?? we arent fremantle or richmond we have a great future with the current crop so great choices IMO.

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Post: # 690313Post plugger66 »

Lets See. One has won a brownlow and 3 got delisted from their clubs. We have now 2 of the delisted players.


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Post: # 690318Post CaptainRiewoldt »

I mean drafting 2 young guys one of which is semi proven and I have hope both will come on, both have had experience somewhat.

Instead of risking the whole club on a 30 year old and a 28 year old hack.

just saying we made a proffessional decision, rather than 'cousins' fever.


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CaptainReiwoldt wrote:I mean drafting 2 young guys one of which is semi proven and I have hope both will come on, both have had experience somewhat.

Instead of risking the whole club on a 30 year old and a 28 year old hack.

just saying we made a proffessional decision, rather than 'cousins' fever.
Well comparing Cousins to those 2 is like comparing John McEnroe to Todd Woodbridge or Todd Reid. One will get the job done but cause a bit of pain doing it. The others are honest but never quite get over the line.


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plugger66 wrote:
CaptainReiwoldt wrote:I mean drafting 2 young guys one of which is semi proven and I have hope both will come on, both have had experience somewhat.

Instead of risking the whole club on a 30 year old and a 28 year old hack.

just saying we made a proffessional decision, rather than 'cousins' fever.
Well comparing Cousins to those 2 is like comparing John McEnroe to Todd Woodbridge or Todd Reid. One will get the job done but cause a bit of pain doing it. The others are honest but never quite get over the line.
correct.

and neither will help boost our membership numbers.

The Cousins hype would have (but at a "minder cost" to offset the revenue to some extent also!).


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Post: # 690329Post CaptainRiewoldt »

How about when Cousins is found by the cops one morning after a drink/drug binge during the season???

what then??

You know how much *&^% the club would be in then???

really worth it??? We have something great happening why take that risk???

Begley looks real fit and if he holds up a defensive post thats gram or goddard into the midfield.


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Post: # 690341Post EB »

imo if Cousins f***s up Richmond can cover their a**es by simply saying "we gave him a chance, it didn't work out and know we'll move on from it"


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Post: # 690345Post golden hawk »

good luck to Zac hope he does alright for you guys [ except against the hawks sorry ]

he was a hawk supporter before becoming a player for them a new home may help he cement a spot cause near the end he came close at times [ was an emergency ] but it was hard for any of the ones not in the senior list to get in so he never got to prove the critics wrong .hopefully can now .

i am happy he got a second chance at it .


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plugger66 wrote:Lets See. One has won a brownlow and 3 got delisted from their clubs. We have now 2 of the delisted players.
I guess that delisted players never go on to make anything of their second chances. Guerra is a premiership player now isn't he? Or did I miss something....?

Plenty of examples of delisted players working out well.


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Post: # 690350Post evertonfc »

This poster can't even spell the name of our club captain, so I'm going to treat his opinion with the depth it deserves.

We should have taken Cousins. I wouldn't have minded Carroll if the players were ok with it.

Begley's not a bad pick I guess, and neither is Dawson, but the latter was a rookie (who we should have taken later).

And who's more likely to be on a list two years' from now? Cousins or Begley?


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evertonfc wrote:This poster can't even spell the name of our club captain, so I'm going to treat his opinion with the depth it deserves.

We should have taken Cousins. I wouldn't have minded Carroll if the players were ok with it.

Begley's not a bad pick I guess, and neither is Dawson, but the latter was a rookie (who we should have taken later).

And who's more likely to be on a list two years' from now? Cousins or Begley?
Probably Begley in 2 years from now because Cousins plays for Richmond. :?

Time to move on people.

Oh yeah, P66...

Perhaps we should have taken Woewodin? He was a former Brownlow medalist...


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WayneJudson42 wrote:
evertonfc wrote:This poster can't even spell the name of our club captain, so I'm going to treat his opinion with the depth it deserves.

We should have taken Cousins. I wouldn't have minded Carroll if the players were ok with it.

Begley's not a bad pick I guess, and neither is Dawson, but the latter was a rookie (who we should have taken later).

And who's more likely to be on a list two years' from now? Cousins or Begley?
Probably Begley in 2 years from now because Cousins plays for Richmond. :?

Time to move on people.

Oh yeah, P66...

Perhaps we should have taken Woewodin? He was a former Brownlow medalist...
Didnt know he nominated but probably would have been as useful as Dawson. By the way I have said all along we probably shouldnt have picked up Cousins but when someone says Dawson and Begley are better for the club well I think that may deserve a response. Anyway hopefully Brad Hardie will be available next year.


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Post: # 690356Post evertonfc »

WayneJudson42 wrote:Probably Begley in 2 years from now because Cousins plays for Richmond.
Huh?


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Post: # 690359Post Saints94 »

Hey captain its spelt Riewoldt :wink:


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evertonfc wrote:
WayneJudson42 wrote:Probably Begley in 2 years from now because Cousins plays for Richmond.
Huh?
You asked who's most likely to be on our list in 2 years time...


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Post: # 690376Post evertonfc »

WayneJudson42 wrote:
evertonfc wrote:
WayneJudson42 wrote:Probably Begley in 2 years from now because Cousins plays for Richmond.
Huh?
You asked who's most likely to be on our list in 2 years time...
No I didn't.

I said 'a' list, not our 'list'.


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evertonfc wrote:We should have taken Cousins.
OMG I got it wrong then. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Sorry oh great and powerful Oz....

FFS we should never have taken him and DIDN'T.

Reckon there may have been a greater reason for not taking him than there was in favour of "Everton said so - therefore we shall."

Get the F*** over it..... and get on with supporting who we HAVE...

Can't believe tossers are still sooking over the non BC issue. A player who was never a Saint, and never should have been.

Go get a Tigers membership FFS.


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Post: # 690380Post Solar »

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Post: # 690392Post evertonfc »

Iceman234 wrote:
evertonfc wrote:We should have taken Cousins.
OMG I got it wrong then. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Sorry oh great and powerful Oz....

FFS we should never have taken him and DIDN'T.

Reckon there may have been a greater reason for not taking him than there was in favour of "Everton said so - therefore we shall."

Get the F*** over it..... and get on with supporting who we HAVE...

Can't believe tossers are still sooking over the non BC issue. A player who was never a Saint, and never should have been.

Go get a Tigers membership FFS.
Since when is it a crime to have a valid opinion?

That post is pathetic in its immaturity.

Grow up.


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Post: # 690395Post WayneJudson42 »

Ben Cousins... the AFL's answer to Paris Hilton. :shock:

Sorry EFC, my bad. You are correct re "a" list and not "our" list.

Let's wait and see...


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i think we done pretty well


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evertonfc wrote:
Iceman234 wrote:
evertonfc wrote:We should have taken Cousins.
OMG I got it wrong then. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Sorry oh great and powerful Oz....

FFS we should never have taken him and DIDN'T.

Reckon there may have been a greater reason for not taking him than there was in favour of "Everton said so - therefore we shall."

Get the F*** over it..... and get on with supporting who we HAVE...

Can't believe tossers are still sooking over the non BC issue. A player who was never a Saint, and never should have been.

Go get a Tigers membership FFS.
Since when is it a crime to have a valid opinion?

That post is pathetic in its immaturity.

Grow up.
Agreed! Pathetic post. If you dont agree with the "iceman" you're a loser :roll: :roll:

BC should have been taken, but wasn't and it may prove to be a mistake on different levels.

already OFF field it has shown to be a mistake, and lets see what happens on field.

If we win the flag this year then i guess the board were right, and i, along with the silent majority were wrong...

I guess we'll see...


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Post: # 690411Post Iceman234 »

evertonfc wrote:
Iceman234 wrote:
evertonfc wrote:We should have taken Cousins.
OMG I got it wrong then. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Sorry oh great and powerful Oz....

FFS we should never have taken him and DIDN'T.

Reckon there may have been a greater reason for not taking him than there was in favour of "Everton said so - therefore we shall."

Get the F*** over it..... and get on with supporting who we HAVE...

Can't believe tossers are still sooking over the non BC issue. A player who was never a Saint, and never should have been.

Go get a Tigers membership FFS.
Since when is it a crime to have a valid opinion?

That post is pathetic in its immaturity.

Grow up.
It's not a crime Ev, but this was last years news...

So maybe move your whingy whiny opinion of him to the opposition thread and enjoy your gratification of BC there - he's not a Saint, never was, never will be, I think most have moved on...

Immature...pffft... :roll:

Yeah I'm the one hero-worshipping a messiah that never was... :roll:


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Post: # 690412Post degruch »

A Ben Cousins Forum sounds like a good idea...move all the old news there for BC supporters to enjoy, leave all the relevant news on the Saintsational Fan Forum for St Kilda supporters to enjoy. :wink:


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Post: # 690413Post Iceman234 »

degruch wrote:A Ben Cousins Forum sounds like a good idea...move all the old news there for BC supporters to enjoy, leave all the relevant news on the Saintsational Fan Forum for St Kilda supporters to enjoy. :wink:
Seconded - it could be the "All who still sook about BC not being a Saint" Forum...


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