Our forward line needs a big dose of Viagra

[3rd generation saint]

Let's face it, our forwards are limp, impotent and seem only to be able to piss opportunities away.
RL has to do some serious work over the summer to improve our scoring abilities.
You can't win games by just trying to keep the opposition to a losing score.
In 09 we we're potent up forward, but ever since Roo went down last year, we just seemed to lose our ability to score.
I'll go as far as to say our skill level has gone down because of this due to the far to many times our half backs would win the ball, get clear, look up and have nothing to kick it too.
This causes them to stop prop and look for a second or third option.
Two things we must recruit over the summer, a very good skills coach and a very good Forwards coach.
Now, I am going to be controversial here, but, the guy I would be going after for forwards coach would be argueably the best forward for the last 20 years, Wayne Carey.
Let's face it, give him those shots that Roo missed last night and he would have drilled them, captain's goals.
We need to get back to playing positive football, not negative football.
Anyway it's just an opinion, but what we need this summer is only positive news, only to be heard from due to our recruiting and nothing else.
For one, I am actually relieved this season is over, they did a remarkable feat to get back to thwe finals after the start we had, but I just want to forget about this season now.
Here's for a better 2012.

[St Igmata]

More to do with the playing style than the forward line.
The Blues dont even have any talls and score more heavily.
Need more midfield class and more emphasis on creativity than defensive mindedness.

[meher baba]

I thought the potential benefits of a course of Viagra for at least a couple of guys on our list was there fo for all to see in the last off season........

[noob]

the facts are we've only got 4 geniune forwards in the team.. yet on a team sheet it consists of 6 players playing in the forward line.

[3rd generation saint]

We invented the forward pressure game, yet we can't do it anymore, because there is no one in our forward line to apply pressure.

[BushDave]

There is no doubt that we have a pretty good back line. Despite the continued criticism Zac and Raph cop the stats show that we keep sides to low scores.

The problem is we have no potent forwards and our forwards don't hurt sides on the scoreboard. Nick is a great player but he is never going to kick bags of goals. He needs to play up the ground and we need some strong marking, straight kicking, tall forwards to complement Milne, Schneider and co.

Kosi needs to stay as a follower with Ben, resting in the forward line from time to time.

If we don't have the ability to apply scoreboard pressure we will continue to struggle. Last night was proof of that.

[BigMart]

Whats the main ingredients to a high performing fwd line.....

Structure......

5 Dangerous Players.......

Good delivery......

Which boxes do we tick????

[Sobraz]

We'll probably go after Mitch Morton to compliment Gamble and Charlie Gardiner...

[dcstkfc]

We are blaming the wrong people in the forward line discussion.

Blame Paul Cahill, Rhys Stanley and Will Johnson for doing SFA over the last three years.

[jays]

need tom to come in get rid of kosi in fwd line

[Junction Oval]

dcstkfc commented :

We are blaming the wrong people in the forward line discussion.

Blame Paul Cahill, Rhys Stanley and Will Johnson for doing SFA over the last three years.

I would be more inclined to blame the Reruiters

[Vazelos]

Are we at all looking at Fevola or is that totally out of the question?

A Saints supporter, can you trust a man to finally get it together after having it all taken away and understastanding what it means to be an AFL footballer?

Is he that much of a train wreck?

When Gehrig was firing that was our best forward line with Roo in front of him. We dont have the line splitting pace in the mid field so we need quality target forwards.

I am hopeful with Hayes back and the inclusion of Ledger and Cripps next year our Mid Field will be better, our backline is proven, its the forward line that breaks down under pressure.

[Iceman234]

Kamagra is the new generation Viagra, FFS keep up with the times people.

[Dr Spaceman]

Are we at all looking at Fevola or is that totally out of the question?.

Please don't mention Fevola on a thread with Viagra in the title!

[Dr Spaceman]

Kamagra is the new generation Viagra, FFS keep up with the times people.

Well if we could keep up we wouldn't need it

[bigcarl]

Five man forward line

HF: Schneider, Walsh, Milne
F: Riewoldt, Gamble

Kosi to second ruck/kick behind play with a licence to fly for marks anywhere.

Should have happened late this season.

[lefty]

Five man forward line

HF: Schneider, Walsh, Milne
F: Riewoldt, Gamble

Kosi to second ruck/kick behind play with a licence to fly for marks anywhere.

Should have happened late this season.

I'd be suprised if Gamble stays on the list, Sipposs will take his spot.

[kalsaint]

There is no doubt that we have a pretty good back line. Despite the continued criticism Zac and Raph cop the stats show that we keep sides to low scores.

The problem is we have no potent forwards and our forwards don't hurt sides on the scoreboard. Nick is a great player but he is never going to kick bags of goals. He needs to play up the ground and we need some strong marking, straight kicking, tall forwards to complement Milne, Schneider and co.

Kosi needs to stay as a follower with Ben, resting in the forward line from time to time.

If we don't have the ability to apply scoreboard pressure we will continue to struggle. Last night was proof of that.

Backline looks good because of the midfield and half forwards flooding back.

Just need the right forward structure to score goals and more injection of midfielders with the desire to protect ball carriers run and deliver.

Its proven, when Nick and Kosi cant score goals due to poorer delivery, they create opportunity for smalls when crashing the pack. The structure is whats needed to mix up the goals scoring opportunities and stop the one dimensional game style.

[SaintWodonga]

the facts are we've only got 4 geniune forwards in the team.. yet on a team sheet it consists of 6 players playing in the forward line.

+1 Agree, I was behind the goals in the 2nd quarter of the 2nd GF last year, time and time again we would kick it in and Roo was often the only person in the forward line.

[bigcarl]

Five man forward line

HF: Schneider, Walsh, Milne
F: Riewoldt, Gamble

Kosi to second ruck/kick behind play with a licence to fly for marks anywhere.

Should have happened late this season.

I'd be suprised if Gamble stays on the list, Sipposs will take his spot.

Yeah, forgot about Sipposs. Swap those two around.

But I think Gamble will stay. Clever player who can kick straight. Would look okay as a third tall, but not a key forward as we tried to play him this year.

Also might be able to play elsewhere than the forward line. God knows we can use players with good skills who can kick.

[saintjake]

We are blaming the wrong people in the forward line discussion.

Blame Paul Cahill, Rhys Stanley and Will Johnson for doing SFA over the last three years.

I don't understand the hate on Johnson and wod be shocked if he gets cut. I think he will be a good player for us