can someone please explain two things
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can someone please explain two things
How could ross have left when he is contracted?
When was the last time - if ever- a coach in vfl/afl has left a club for another club unilateraly while still under contract and with 12 months to go?
What would be the legal implications? Surely we could get an injunction to stop him coaching another club?
I'm not being a smart alec here. I would like an adult response please.
I can't quite understand what just went on. I don't know enough about contract law but what is the point of having contracts if one party can walk out.
I assume he could have asked to leave and we could have agreed to let him walk. But that was always unlikely.
When was the last time - if ever- a coach in vfl/afl has left a club for another club unilateraly while still under contract and with 12 months to go?
What would be the legal implications? Surely we could get an injunction to stop him coaching another club?
I'm not being a smart alec here. I would like an adult response please.
I can't quite understand what just went on. I don't know enough about contract law but what is the point of having contracts if one party can walk out.
I assume he could have asked to leave and we could have agreed to let him walk. But that was always unlikely.
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I believe it was a case where we would not have stood in his way if he wanted to leave.
Other than that he IS contracted and of course obligated under the conditions of that contract.
But if he doesnt want to be there....
Other than that he IS contracted and of course obligated under the conditions of that contract.
But if he doesnt want to be there....
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Malthouse?Con Gorozidis wrote: When was the last time - if ever- a coach in vfl/afl has left a club for another club unilateraly while still under contract and with 12 months to go?.
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My question is why the media was hammering the issue so strongly when a contract was still in place.
THAT to me was the weird bit.
Pretty disrespectful to the bloke to ASSUME he would break an agreement...
Lyon G and his mates at 9?
THAT to me was the weird bit.
Pretty disrespectful to the bloke to ASSUME he would break an agreement...
Lyon G and his mates at 9?
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That was my problem too.Thinline wrote:My question is why the media was hammering the issue so strongly when a contract was still in place.
THAT to me was the weird bit.
Pretty disrespectful to the bloke to ASSUME he would break an agreement...
Lyon G and his mates at 9?
I don't mind if the media gets stuck into us over poor on filed or heaven forbid, even off field stuff - that's their job to sell papers. But it is typically a slow news day when one of the biggest stories of the day is a coach STAYING at the club they still have a contract with anyway.
Such a non-story.
Perplexing.
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From a media perspective, it's all about increasing sales and ratings. It's also about media "egos" breaking so-called "stories."
It's all juicy "speculation" which the media and we the public, thrive on - simply count the number of Sainsational posts over the past few days.
Forget the get-out clauses in the contract. If it is clear that a coach no longer has an interest in coaching and putting in the associated effort, then he is no use to the Club and the team - all credibility is lost. It would be untennable for a Club to insist on a coach completing his contract in those circumstances.
It's all juicy "speculation" which the media and we the public, thrive on - simply count the number of Sainsational posts over the past few days.
Forget the get-out clauses in the contract. If it is clear that a coach no longer has an interest in coaching and putting in the associated effort, then he is no use to the Club and the team - all credibility is lost. It would be untennable for a Club to insist on a coach completing his contract in those circumstances.
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Re: can someone please explain two things
Malthouse WCECon Gorozidis wrote:How could ross have left when he is contracted?
When was the last time - if ever- a coach in vfl/afl has left a club for another club unilateraly while still under contract and with 12 months to go?
What would be the legal implications? Surely we could get an injunction to stop him coaching another club?
I'm not being a smart alec here. I would like an adult response please.
I can't quite understand what just went on. I don't know enough about contract law but what is the point of having contracts if one party can walk out.
I assume he could have asked to leave and we could have agreed to let him walk. But that was always unlikely.
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Wallace WB (maybe he was told to leave)
I'm sure there are others.
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i posted this on another thread, here it is again:Con Gorozidis wrote:How could ross have left when he is contracted?
employment contracts are significantly more binding on the organisation than on the individual. especially in a case like this where it's a tough job which requires absolute 100% commitment.
what if lyon wanted to leave? his manager would go to nettlefold and say "sorry mate, his heart's not in it, obviously he can coach on but he'll only be working the bare minimum contracted hours and he'll be taking all his accrued leave."
the club couldn't have an uncommitted coach - that would be suicide - so we'd have to let him go and do what we could to find someone to take his place. regardless of contract status.
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Kim HagdornJunction Oval wrote:From a media perspective, it's all about increasing sales and ratings. It's also about media "egos" breaking so-called "stories."
It's all juicy "speculation" which the media and we the public, thrive on - simply count the number of Sainsational posts over the past few days.
Forget the get-out clauses in the contract. If it is clear that a coach no longer has an interest in coaching and putting in the associated effort, then he is no use to the Club and the team - all credibility is lost. It would be untennable for a Club to insist on a coach completing his contract in those circumstances.
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could be that, the media hate st kilda. there have been aaying for days now that stkilda is the worst club to deal withThinline wrote:My question is why the media was hammering the issue so strongly when a contract was still in place.
THAT to me was the weird bit.
Pretty disrespectful to the bloke to ASSUME he would break an agreement...
Lyon G and his mates at 9?
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What baffles and frustrates me is how the media are painting Melbourne as such an appealing destination.Thinline wrote:My question is why the media was hammering the issue so strongly when a contract was still in place.
THAT to me was the weird bit.
Pretty disrespectful to the bloke to ASSUME he would break an agreement...
Lyon G and his mates at 9?
We're talking about a club who's President is on his last legs, has a CEO that had lost the respect of the players and was to be sacked prior to Bailey's sacking, is no financially better off than the Saints, and has Garry Lyon appointing the coach, only to leave straight away.
Sure, they have young talent but the administration is totally dysfunctional.
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yep cool. thanks. read that in todays news. some text in the contract which could be used as a get out.bigred wrote:I believe it was a case where we would not have stood in his way if he wanted to leave.
Other than that he IS contracted and of course obligated under the conditions of that contract.
But if he doesnt want to be there....
and yeah i mean at the end of the day noone wants a coach who doesnt want to be there. so fair enough. oh well. on with the business of list mgt which is going to be very hard i imagine.