A Good Horse Trade

[damienc]

Here's my take on the Tom Lee deal. We give up first round pick 12 but get a really promising forward who can take a contested mark and maybe has the potential for greatness plus picks 24 and 43. i reckon we will use and probably only need pick 24 to get Hickey so that's two for the price of one and we're still entitled to be compensated for BJ with a first round pick. We do a straight swap of Cripps for Mitch Brown and all of a sudden Pelchen and Watters are looking like geniuses. Maybe a small understatement. It's still a pretty good deal on any level. Now to figure out a way to skin those Cats and get Caddy across the line.

[gringo]

I want Calquhoun with that 24. I would give a later pick for him, he's a potential player not a gun Hickey. Calquhoun gets 30+ possies as a rebounding back, he will be incredible in a few years.

[bobmurray]

Already a thread on this topic with plenty of discussion of discussion going on...maybe you missed it...

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=78254

[Furphy]

Tom Lee was originally drafted by Adelaide at pick #60 and didn't get a game, I hope this works out...

[bergholt]

Tom Lee was originally drafted by Adelaide at pick #60 and didn't get a game, I hope this works out...

Stevie Milne was originally drafted by Essendon with rookie pick 23 (effectively pick #116) and couldn't get a game for them, how'd that work out?

[bergsone]

Tom Lee was originally drafted by Adelaide at pick #60 and didn't get a game, I hope this works out...

Stevie Milne was originally drafted by Essendon with rookie pick 23 (effectively pick #116) and couldn't get a game for them, how'd that work out?

simple...some make it,some dont

[SaintSimmo]

Tom Lee was originally drafted by Adelaide at pick #60 and didn't get a game, I hope this works out...

He was also 17 at the time.......

Not many 17/18 year old key forwards get a game.

He said himself he wasn't mature enough at the time both physically and mentally.

[bergholt]

Tom Lee was originally drafted by Adelaide at pick #60 and didn't get a game, I hope this works out...

Stevie Milne was originally drafted by Essendon with rookie pick 23 (effectively pick #116) and couldn't get a game for them, how'd that work out?

simple...some make it,some dont

Yup. And that's got very little to do with which draft pick they were originally taken at, so I don't see why we'd worry about the pick #60 thing years later.

[SainterK]

Is this about Longmire getting Tippet?

[savatage]

Tom Lee was originally drafted by Adelaide at pick #60 and didn't get a game, I hope this works out...

Stevie Milne was originally drafted by Essendon with rookie pick 23 (effectively pick #116) and couldn't get a game for them, how'd that work out?

That's not right. Milne was on Essendon's supplementary list in the VFL, he had no tie to Essendon aside from the fact that they had a big hard look at him. They overlooked him when they had a spot on the list available (it was between him and one other player who escapes me). So they overlooked him, we rookied him and the rest is history.

[Dr Spaceman]

Is this about Longmire getting Tippet?

[Furphy]

Tom Lee was originally drafted by Adelaide at pick #60 and didn't get a game, I hope this works out...

Stevie Milne was originally drafted by Essendon with rookie pick 23 (effectively pick #116) and couldn't get a game for them, how'd that work out?

With that logic, why don't we draft the full-forward playing for Hastings? He must be as good as John Coleman.

[Dave McNamara]

Tom Lee was originally drafted by Adelaide at pick #60 and didn't get a game, I hope this works out...

Stevie Milne was originally drafted by Essendon with rookie pick 23 (effectively pick #116) and couldn't get a game for them, how'd that work out?

With that logic, why don't we draft the full-forward playing for Hastings? He must be as good as John Coleman.

Hi Furph, I for one am very excited about our Tom Lee. The guy we picked up is not the same Tom Lee whom you write about above.

The Adelaide Lee, from all reports I've read was a skinny young kid, a minimium aged recruit, who was a bit overawed by the AFL experience, who for whatever reason/s didn't display the necessary work aptitude, and who suffered poisoning from trying to drink brown sludge from Adelaide taps.

Our Tom Lee is bigger, stronger, more experienced, more confident, the penny has dropped re the need to put in the work, and he has been successfully detoxed.



PS: We did actually pick up the Hastings FC's part-time full forward. He too was a rare talent and could really play! Performed some Coleman-esque stuff out on the footy field, but lacked Coleman's attitude... hence ultimately ended up an unfullfiled talent. IMHO, tatts and serial silly hairdos didn't help either...

[Furphy]

Lee certainly looks great in the highlight clip & it would be great if he lives up to expectations. I'm still peeved over the Paddy Guinane fiasco and what might have been if Ian Stewart was in our side in the '71 GF... If 'ifs & buts' were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas!

[Animal Enclosure]

Lee certainly looks great in the highlight clip & it would be great if he lives up to expectations. I'm still peeved over the Paddy Guinane fiasco and what might have been if Ian Stewart was in our side in the '71 GF... If 'ifs & buts' were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas!

There's a bloke on BigFooty who has done a numerical analysis of the 'real' value of trades. It's very interesting stuff & is worth a look;

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/t ... t-26263896

[andrewg]

Lee certainly looks great in the highlight clip & it would be great if he lives up to expectations. I'm still peeved over the Paddy Guinane fiasco and what might have been if Ian Stewart was in our side in the '71 GF... If 'ifs & buts' were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas!

There's a bloke on BigFooty who has done a numerical analysis of the 'real' value of trades. It's very interesting stuff & is worth a look;

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/t ... t-26263896

This is great!

[rexy]

Thanks for posting that, an interesting read. Wonder if we have taken a mathematical approach, that's 2 years in a row we have taken a similar approach to trading! American sports have Ben trading Draft picks and have had free agency to consider whilst banning their salary cap, I wonder if their is published ino on this type of equation already!

[gringo]

Thanks for posting that, an interesting read. Wonder if we have taken a mathematical approach, that's 2 years in a row we have taken a similar approach to trading! American sports have Ben trading Draft picks and have had free agency to consider whilst banning their salary cap, I wonder if their is published ino on this type of equation already!

Moneyball for nerds?

[rexy]

Thanks for posting that, an interesting read. Wonder if we have taken a mathematical approach, that's 2 years in a row we have taken a similar approach to trading! American sports have Ben trading Draft picks and have had free agency to consider whilst banning their salary cap, I wonder if their is published ino on this type of equation already!

Moneyball for nerds?

Yeah something like that lol.