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guess this weeks ins and outs

Post: # 1313607Post plugger66 »

in
Schneider
Dempster
Joey


out
TDL
Ray
Hickey


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Re: guess this weeks ins and outs

Post: # 1313611Post spert »

No change


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Re: guess this weeks ins and outs

Post: # 1313615Post dragit »

Think you'll probably be right pluggs with those three.


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Re: guess this weeks ins and outs

Post: # 1313617Post bigcarl »

In: Montagna, Fisher, Dempster
Out: Dennis-Lane, Newnes, Blake


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Post: # 1313619Post #gosaintas »

In : Schneider, Monty, Fisher, Dempster
Out : TDL, Blake, Ray, Hickey


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Post: # 1313620Post Spinner »

spert wrote:No change

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Re: guess this weeks ins and outs

Post: # 1313621Post Spinner »

In: Schneider Simpkin Montagna Dempster

Out: Ray Gilbert TDL Blake


Make Dempster tag given our difficulties last week.

Blake out but did nothing wrong.


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Re: guess this weeks ins and outs

Post: # 1313622Post saintspremiers »

In Schneids, Dumpster, Joey, Simpkin

Out: TDL, Saad, Newnes, Blake


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Post: # 1313623Post saintspremiers »

Spinner wrote:
spert wrote:No change

:mrgreen:
And the pope is a Latino!


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Re: guess this weeks ins and outs

Post: # 1313624Post Beno88 »

In : Montagna, Dempster, Fisher, Simpkin, Schneider

Out : Dennis-Lane, Jones, Ray, Blake, Saad


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Re: guess this weeks ins and outs

Post: # 1313626Post cwrcyn »

in: Montagna, Wright

Out: Dennis-Lane, Ray


Unfortunately, I don't think Fisher, Dempster, Schneider, and Simpkin will be ready


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Re: guess this weeks ins and outs

Post: # 1313629Post SunburySaint »

Out: TDL, Hickey
In: Montagna, Fisher

Sub: Newnes


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Post: # 1313631Post saintspremiers »

No love for Kosi except for Watters (and Dools of course!).


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Re: guess this weeks ins and outs

Post: # 1313641Post SainterK »

In joey dempster kosi Schneider

Out trent hickey Roberton jones

joey into the midfield, Newnes to move back on king again, kosi to stretch tiges defence and balance out the fact mullet will ruck pretty much in his own, Roberton unlucky but us depth at this stage, Schneider to sub
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Re: guess this weeks ins and outs

Post: # 1313644Post Mitch35 »

In: Fisher, Simpkin, Montagna, Dempster, Schneider
Out: Blake, Dennis-Lane, Saad, Gilbert/Jones, Ray

Simpkin in if we want to release Dempster into a midfield tagging role. Gwilt to provide run with Siposs, Roberton & Geary. Close between Jones and Gilbert, Jones might be of more value this week in tagging than Gilbert. Carlton were exposed against 3 tall forwards last week.

Would like to see Hickey a bit more in the ruck in the first 3 quarters So we have a more fresh Big Mac in the final quarter when we sub Hickey.

B: Geary, Fisher, Simpkin
HB: Dempster, Stanley, Gwilt
C: Dal Santo, Hayes, Siposs
HF: Montagna, Riewoldt, Milera
F: Milne, Maister, Hickey
R: McEvoy, Armitage, Jones
I: Steven, Roberton, Newnes
S: Schneider


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Post: # 1313656Post borderbarry »

In.... Schneider, whichever of Fisher, Dempster or Simpkin is fit, Wright, Kosi.

Out... TDL, Saad, Hickey, Ray.
(Geary to play midfield, Wright his place in defence. Kosi FP & Ruck.)


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Re: guess this weeks ins and outs

Post: # 1313663Post milney044 »

FB: J.Gwilt T.Simpkin S.Dempster
HB: J.Geary J.Blake A.Siposs
C: N.Dal Santo L.Hayes L.Montagna
HF: A.Schneider N.Riewoldt B.Maister
FF: S.Milne R.Stanley T.Milera
Foll: B.McEvoy D.Armitage J.Steven
INT: T.Hickey C.Jones D.Roberton S.Gilbert
EMG: F.Ray J.Koschitzke A.Saad

IN: T.Simpkin, S.Dempster, A.Schneider, L.Montagna
OUT: A.Saad, T.Dennis-Lane, F.Ray, J.Newnes

Joey has to be a certain inclusion – Newnes makes way as he’s just too soft and doesn’t look up to it yet
Dempster by reports should be fit to play, replacing Stanley’s position who did well down back but I really think we need another tall option up forward given both Roo and Maister spend time up the ground, effectively Stanley replaces Dennis-Lane who did nothing.
Schneider if fit must play – we need his skills – particularly by foot as we are severely lacking. I think another small forward needs to make way, leaving Milera who was soft but kicked 3, Saad to make way, couldn’t see them dropping Milne.
Simpkin is a tough one – not sure if he’ll be right to play but I highly rate him, leaving Ray out who I thought was woeful unfortunately as I really would like Ray to cement a spot.

I just couldn’t bring myself to include Koz and have given Hickey another chance for redemption. On paper the side looks okay, fingers crossed Fisher comes up which I doubt – if so Roberton or Blake to make way.

4 outs is also a lot of changes but I think they are necessary plus 4 fresh pairs of legs will do no harm after a short break.


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Post: # 1313664Post WinnersOnly »

I can't believe nearly everyone wants Stanley to move forward? He played probably his best game for the Saints against GC playing down back and now you think he should go forward!

Our forward line will be fine if we improve the delivery to them! The positive with Maister is he got his hands to a lot of footy last week and when playing in non humid conditions he will improve markedly. Roo only had 1/2 a practice game before GC so he will improve. Perhaps we should play Lee or Kosi this week to give us a third tall as All the small forwards were poor last week. We had too many one position small forwards we need players who can rotate thru the middle.

Schneider should return for Saad simply because he can play thru the middle, Dempster to replace Roberton, Fisher to replace Blake & move Saad to sub position replacing TDL. The other player who had a shocker was Ray and we may include Wright in his place but I think Farren deserves another game to get himself going - he did have a solid preseason!

Saad is to ultimately replace Milne but until Milne retires we can't afford to two so similar player. Saad needs to develop some midfield capacity IMO!


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Post: # 1313671Post matrix »

dragit wrote:Think you'll probably be right pluggs with those three.
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Re: guess this weeks ins and outs

Post: # 1313681Post milney044 »

Ideally I’d like to play Stanley as a forward but pushing up the ground instead of Roo and Maister. The only problem with this is Stanley’s injury concerns and making him run up the wings may just push him a little too much. Maister can at least take a contested mark which we really missed last week, though I will agree the delivery was very average – what concerned me most about this though is that with such poor delivery, you think our smalls would have excelled, yet they didn’t seem to have anyone bringing the ball down to them which is what Maister and Stanley would be handy for.

I still think Roo is most dangerous up forward as he demands a lot of attention from defenders and having another tall option (Maister/Stanley) catches our opposition off guard a little bit. I really think Roo and Maister need to remain permanent forwards because 1. Maister is a strong mark and will always contend and bring the ball down 2. Maister is generally an accurate kick for goal. 3. Roo wastes so much energy running up the ground which I believe contributes to his inaccruarcy in front of goal. 4. He puts a lot more pressure on the opposition if he is playing as a forward, and I think if we were a bit smarter with our entries into the forward line and not bombing it to Roo all the time – with Roo there though he draws 2 defenders so as I said – its about being smarter. Plus, if we could actually hit Roo on the chest he might have been an asset on the wing, but so many times it is delivered to his feet or over his head and the opposition run away with it. I actually would have liked to have seen Siposs on a wing because if he can get his hands on it there it puts us in a fabourable, attacking and dangerous position with his long and accurate kick inside 50.

That’s my take however in saying all this, it was promising to see Stanley play well down back and it is nice to know we have this option, I just don’t know if we need him there when Simpkin, Fisher and Dempster return.


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Re: guess this weeks ins and outs

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IN: Dempster, Montagna, Simpkin
OUT: Blake, Dennis-Lane, Ray

FB: Simpkin, Stanley, Gwilt
HB: Dempster, Roberton, Geary
C: Dal Santo, Hayes, Montagna
HF: Saad, Riewoldt, Siposs
FF: Milne, Maister, Hickey
R: McEvoy, Armitage, Jones
IC: Steven, Milera, Newnes, Gilbert

Basically like-for-like replacements. If Schneider was to come in for Newnes or Milera, or Blake stay in ahead of Simpkin, that would be a sign of panic for mine - going with the oldies and losing faith in the kids.

Matchups:

Jones on Cotchin
Stanley on Vickery
Simpkin on Riewoldt
Gwilt/Dempster/Roberton on Maric/McGuane
Geary on King
Griffiths will go to Riewoldt
Chaplin will go to Maister
Morris will go to Milne
Jackson will go to Dal Santo?


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WinnersOnly wrote:I can't believe nearly everyone wants Stanley to move forward? He played probably his best game for the Saints against GC playing down back and now you think he should go forward!
Agreed. The kid's already got confidence issues, throwing him around the park isn't going to help on that front.


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Re: guess this weeks ins and outs

Post: # 1313698Post SaintWodonga »

In : Montagna, Dempster, Fisher, Wright, Schneider

Out : Dennis-Lane, Jones, Newnes, Blake, Saad
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Post: # 1313700Post WinnersOnly »

SaintWodonga wrote:In : Montagna, Dempster, Fisher, Wright, Schneider

Out : Dennis-Lane, Jones, Ray, Blake, Saad
I forgot Montagna you may be pretty close SW...


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Post: # 1313702Post felix »

I can understand people wanting TDL dropped but Saad !!! Won't happen .


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