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Post: # 1510869Post jimmy_slats »

am i right in saying that after picks 1 21 22 we will have to use all remaining pics on our rookies ? we have four picks after those and after mav just signing a 2 year deal which i would assume is a non rookie deal then we will only get 3 players in the draft? also how many players are we going to have to delist after we now have committed to adding 3 draft players plus 4 rookie upgrades plus Membre and then there will be 4 rookies but that doesn't count?


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Provisionally we have
Pick No 1
Pick No 21
Pick No 22
Pick No 42
Pick No 79
Pick No 97
Pick No 115

So far we have activated 6 of these picks and announced that we will be upgrading three rookies, Eli Templeton, Cameron Shenton and Daren Minchington
The rookies will take the last three activated picks.
In coming days we can expect to hear that one more senior player is going to be delisted.
Chances are this will be Terry Milera who wanted to rteutrn to South Australia but failed to get any trade interest out of Adelaide or Port Adelaide.
If St Kilda do delist him then one of those clubs may take him as a delisted free agent.
Otherwise his career is over.

These actions would mean we go into the draft with 4 active picks
Those picks would be provisionally (later pick numbers may fall depending on other clubs activation policies)

Pick No 1 Superman 1
Pick No 21 Superman 2
Pick No 22 Superman 3
Pick No 42 Superman 4
Pick No 79 Rookie upgrade
Pick No 97 Rookie upgrade
Pick No 115 Rookie upgrade

An added complication is Tim Membery
Sydney will probably decide to delist him.
If St Kilda want him we must delist one additional player to make a space for Membrey.
Membrey could then come to St Kilda as a delisted free agent or even go to another club.
Or he could wait and nominate for the pre-season draft.

Ideally St Kilda would take him as a a delisted free agent.
We would then retain our No 1 pick in the pre-season draft but would need to delist a further player to create room for that pick.
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your forgetting weller to be upgraded as well i'm pretty sure that he signed a full deal not a rookie deal seeing as a 2 year rookie deal doesn't sound right for a bloke who finished in our top 10


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No way should we use pick 41 on rookie upgrade.
That would be madness.


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jimmy_slats wrote:your forgetting weller to be upgraded as well i'm pretty sure that he signed a full deal not a rookie deal seeing as a 2 year rookie deal doesn't sound right for a bloke who finished in our top 10
No announcement yet on a deal with Weller, until announced he remains a rookie.
Activation of pick 41 probably ends Milera.
Membrey and a pre-season draft pick probably ends Schneider's career.
Even more likely if Weller were to be upgraded.


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ace wrote:

An added complication is Tim Membery
Sydney will probably decide to delist him.
If St Kilda want him we must delist one additional player to make a space for Membrey.
Membrey could then come to St Kilda as a delisted free agent or even go to another club.
Or he could wait and nominate for the pre-season draft.
Saints have stated post trade that they will take him in the PSD.


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Post: # 1510929Post ace »

Don't forget we also have

Pre-Season Draft
PIck No 1 (not actvated yet)

Rookie Draft (provisionally)
Pick no 1
Pick No 19
Pick No 37
All three picks activated.


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ace wrote:Provisionally we have
Pick No 1
Pick No 21
Pick No 22
Pick No 42
Pick No 79
Pick No 97
Pick No 115

So far we have activated 6 of these picks and announced that we will be upgrading three rookies, Eli Templeton, Cameron Shenton and Daren Minchington
The rookies will take the last three activated picks.
In coming days we can expect to hear that one more senior player is going to be delisted.
Chances are this will be Terry Milera who wanted to rteutrn to South Australia but failed to get any trade interest out of Adelaide or Port Adelaide.
If St Kilda do delist him then one of those clubs may take him as a delisted free agent.
Otherwise his career is over.

These actions would mean we go into the draft with 4 active picks
Those picks would be provisionally (later pick numbers may fall depending on other clubs activation policies)

Pick No 1 Superman 1
Pick No 21 Superman 2
Pick No 22 Superman 3
Pick No 42 Superman 4
Pick No 79 Rookie upgrade
Pick No 97 Rookie upgrade
Pick No 115 Rookie upgrade

An added complication is Tim Membery
Sydney will probably decide to delist him.
If St Kilda want him we must delist one additional player to make a space for Membrey.
Membrey could then come to St Kilda as a delisted free agent or even go to another club.
Or he could wait and nominate for the pre-season draft.

Ideally St Kilda would take him as a a delisted free agent.
We would then retain our No 1 pick in the pre-season draft but would need to delist a further player to create room for that pick.

herald sun says pick 41...not 42...

ROUND 1

1. St Kilda

2. Melbourne

3. Melbourne (free agency compensation pick received for James Frawley)

4. GWS

5. Collingwood (traded from Brisbane for Dayne Beams)

6. GWS (traded from Western Bulldogs for Ryan Griffen)

7. GWS (traded from Carlton for Kristian Jaksch, Mark Whiley)

8. Gold Coast

9. Collingwood (Darcy Moore)

10. Geelong (traded from Adelaide)

11. West Coast

12. Richmond

13. Fremantle

14. Adelaide (traded from Geelong)

15. Gold Coast (received from Geelong via a trade in 2012; originally received by the Cats as compensation for Gary Ablett)

16. North Melbourne

17. Essendon (traded from Port Adelaide for Paddy Ryder)

18. Sydney Swans (Isaac Heeney)

19. Carlton (traded from Hawthorn to GWS for Jono O’Rourke, passed on to Carlton for Kristian Jaksch, Mark Whiley)

20. Essendon (first selection moved to end of first round as part of supplements scandal penalty)

COMPENSATION PICK

21. St Kilda (traded from GWS to Brisbane for Joel Patfull, passed on to Geelong for Allen Christensen, traded to St Kilda for Rhys Stanley)

Draft prospects Angus Brayshaw (left), son of Mark Bradshaw and nephew of James, with Tom

Draft prospects Angus Brayshaw (left), son of Mark Bradshaw and nephew of James, with Tom Lamb, son of former Melbourne and Fitzroy player Wayne Lamb. Picture: Colleen Petch

ROUND 2

22. St Kilda

23. GWS (traded from Melbourne for Sam Frost)

24. GWS (Jack Steele)

25. North Melbourne (traded from Brisbane to Collingwood for Dayne Beams, passed on to North Melbourne for Levi Greenwood)

26. Western Bulldogs

27. Western Bulldogs (free agency compensation pick for Shaun Higgins)

28. Carlton

29. Gold Coast

30. Collingwood

31. Hawthorn (traded from Adelaide for Kyle Cheney, Luke Lowden)

32. West Coast

33. Richmond

34. Fremantle

35. Adelaide (traded from Geelong)

36. North Melbourne

37. Sydney (traded from Western Bulldogs for Shane Biggs, originally traded from Port Adelaide to Essendon for Paddy Ryder, traded from Essendon to Dogs for Adam Cooney)

38. Sydney Swans (Jack Hiscox)

39. Western Bulldogs (traded from Sydney, originally free agency compensation pick for Nick Malceski)

40. Melbourne (traded from GWS, originally traded from Hawthorn)

Darcy Moore, son of Brownlow Medallist Peter Moore, is likely to be snapped up by Colling

Darcy Moore, son of Brownlow Medallist Peter Moore, has been snapped up by Collingwood as a father-son selection.

ROUND 3

41. St Kilda

42. Melbourne (Billy Stretch)

43. Adelaide (trade from Hawthorn, originally traded from GWS)

44. Brisbane Lions (Liam Dawson)

45. Western Bulldogs

46. Western Bulldogs (traded from Carlton for Liam Jones)

47. Geelong (traded from Adelaide, after being traded from Hawthorn, originally traded from Gold Coast for Mitch Hallahan)

48. Collingwood

49. Hawthorn (traded from Gold Coast for Mitch Hallahan after Gold Coast received it from West Coast via a trade in 2013; traded to the Eagles by Collingwood in 2010; originally received by the Magpies as compensation for Josh Fraser)

50. Hawthorn (traded from Adelaide)

51. West Coast

52. Richmond

53. Melbourne (traded from GWS, originally traded from Essendon for Jon Giles)

54. Fremantle

55. Geelong

56. North Melbourne

57. Port Adelaide

58. Sydney Swans

59. Adelaide (traded from Hawthorn)

ROUND 4

60. Geelong (traded from St Kilda)

61. Carlton (traded from Melbourne for Jeff Garlett)

62. Essendon (traded from GWS)

63. Brisbane Lions (Harris Andrews)

64. Western Bulldogs (Zaine Cordy)

65. Carlton

66. Gold Coast

67. Brisbane (traded from Collingwood)

68. Hawthorn (traded from Adelaide)

69. West Coast

70. Richmond

71. Essendon

72. Fremantle

73. Geelong

74. North Melbourne

75. Port Adelaide

76. Sydney Swans (Abe Davis)

77. Hawthorn

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ace wrote:
jimmy_slats wrote:your forgetting weller to be upgraded as well i'm pretty sure that he signed a full deal not a rookie deal seeing as a 2 year rookie deal doesn't sound right for a bloke who finished in our top 10
No announcement yet on a deal with Weller, until announced he remains a rookie.
Activation of pick 41 probably ends Milera.
Membrey and a pre-season draft pick probably ends Schneider's career.
Even more likely if Weller were to be upgraded.
2 years, today.

http://www.saints.com.au/news/2014-10-1 ... more-years


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Post: # 1510942Post Con Gorozidis »

Surely we cant use 41 on a Rookie?
Seems a wasted pick? Jimmy Webster was pick 42.
Nothing to do with how much I rate Weller - but cant we have both?


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Con Gorozidis wrote:Surely we cant use 41 on a Rookie?
Seems a wasted pick? Jimmy Webster was pick 42.
Nothing to do with how much I rate Weller - but cant we have both?


not unless we delist someone else......schneids perhaps....???


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