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Goal Kicking coaching?

Post: # 1616294Post Impatient Sainter »

Brad Johnson raised it last week with the lack of consistency in Paddy's technique when kicking at goals. Action went trom straight leg follow through to bent leg punch at the ball. The others who are meant to be excellent shots Billings is going at less than 50%, Membrey & Lonie also missing easy shots.

I know they are all very early in their AFL development but what a difference it would make if they could nail down their goal kicking consistency early in their careers.

We have plenty of developmemt coaches now I wonder if this is something that is analysed and worked on sufficiently?


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Post: # 1616298Post bigcarl »

Good call. Get Josh Bruce to give them a few pointers. I hear he has worked hard on his action and is reaping the rewards


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Impatient Sainter wrote:Brad Johnson raised it last week with the lack of consistency in Paddy's technique when kicking at goals. Action went trom straight leg follow through to bent leg punch at the ball. The others who are meant to be excellent shots Billings is going at less than 50%, Membrey & Lonie also missing easy shots.

I know they are all very early in their AFL development but what a difference it would make if they could nail down their goal kicking consistency early in their careers.

We have plenty of developmemt coaches now I wonder if this is something that is analysed and worked on sufficiently?
He kicked both goals. One from 55 metres out the other from 40.

Who gives a fig what diver Johnson want to pot him about. He kicked both of the shots and both right down the middle.

So what is so inconsistent about 100% accuracy?

Moved on to potting Paddy now have you?


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We've got Lindsay Gilbee as a development coach. One of the best kicking coaches going around.

He turned Brucey from an awkward, inefficient kick to a very good field kick & sound kick for goal.

It's true that Paddy needs some consistency in his action, which I'm sure will come as he gets experience & confidence. When he kicks through the ball he's a good kick. When he stabs at it & doesn't follow through then he's 50/50.


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Post: # 1616304Post Beno88 »

While our kicking for goal isn't perfect, I think it's our kicking into the forward 50 that needs the most work. At one stage last week we'd had 39 inside 50's for a score of 39.


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Post: # 1616311Post Sainternist »

Bring back Peter Hudson. Stewie Loewe's kicking for goal improved out of sight after getting goal kicking coaching for Hudson.


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I thought Paul Huddo would be doing a bit of this?


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Actually, we are no less accurate than about half of the teams for goal this year (which doesn't say much I know). Melbourne is 62%, Adelaide is 59%, North is at 56.5%, GWS is 55.8% and we are 53.9% which is about the same as a few others (Collingwood, WC, Hawthorn and GC). Just imagine if that magic formula to bring it to 75% (for us only) could be found.


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Bunk_Moreland wrote:
Impatient Sainter wrote:Brad Johnson raised it last week with the lack of consistency in Paddy's technique when kicking at goals. Action went trom straight leg follow through to bent leg punch at the ball. The others who are meant to be excellent shots Billings is going at less than 50%, Membrey & Lonie also missing easy shots.

I know they are all very early in their AFL development but what a difference it would make if they could nail down their goal kicking consistency early in their careers.

We have plenty of developmemt coaches now I wonder if this is something that is analysed and worked on sufficiently?
He kicked both goals. One from 55 metres out the other from 40.

Who gives a fig what diver Johnson want to pot him about. He kicked both of the shots and both right down the middle.

So what is so inconsistent about 100% accuracy?

Moved on to potting Paddy now have you?
Your a nasty piece of work Bunk, very bitter individual.

How about you read the thread for what it is - a supporter wishing our goal kicking be improved...


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Post: # 1616335Post BigMart »

Because he's on a high horse, is our former Petracca man.... Now he's changed his name he's a better supporter than everyone else!!!!

Paddy really needs to focus on improving his set shot technique, it's very poor. Two handed ball drop like Farren Ray...

It's something that was noted when drafted. He's not terrible and can kick great goals... But is inconsistent.

When he gets big and strong and fitter his trademark will be his power marking


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Post: # 1616337Post 8856brother »

Paddy, Billings and Lonie all need to improve their goal kicking. Don't think anyone's potting them, just stating facts. They're all 50/50 at best atm. Hopefully they can sort it out.

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perfectionist wrote:Actually, we are no less accurate than about half of the teams for goal this year (which doesn't say much I know). Melbourne is 62%, Adelaide is 59%, North is at 56.5%, GWS is 55.8% and we are 53.9% which is about the same as a few others (Collingwood, WC, Hawthorn and GC). Just imagine if that magic formula to bring it to 75% (for us only) could be found.
We were 18th last year for conversion so we have actually improved quite a bit this year. Last year we were down at 49%. The actual figure for 2015 is probably more like 46% because we kicked quite a few out on the full.
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perfectionist wrote:Actually, we are no less accurate than about half of the teams for goal this year (which doesn't say much I know). Melbourne is 62%, Adelaide is 59%, North is at 56.5%, GWS is 55.8% and we are 53.9% which is about the same as a few others (Collingwood, WC, Hawthorn and GC). Just imagine if that magic formula to bring it to 75% (for us only) could be found.
Even Lockett "only" kicked at 69.7% (G1360-B590), Hudson at 68.7% (G727-B330) and Dunstall 66.1% (G1254-B641).


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Jacks Back wrote:
perfectionist wrote:Actually, we are no less accurate than about half of the teams for goal this year (which doesn't say much I know). Melbourne is 62%, Adelaide is 59%, North is at 56.5%, GWS is 55.8% and we are 53.9% which is about the same as a few others (Collingwood, WC, Hawthorn and GC). Just imagine if that magic formula to bring it to 75% (for us only) could be found.
Even Lockett "only" kicked at 69.7% (G1360-B590), Hudson at 68.7% (G727-B330) and Dunstall 66.1% (G1254-B641).
Lockett was simply amazing. Hudson and Dunstall are renown for never missing.


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Post: # 1616355Post BigMart »

Bit of Reality

Lockett Dunstall and Huddo were traditional FFs who led from the Goal Square and had shots form 25 - 40 metres out generally after a quick lead... No lactic acid that a current day player deals with. Plus they had more practice than most averaging about 7 shots at goal a Week.
That being said, they were monotonous technicians who were mentally confident/strong and trusted their routines.

I think those who keep it simple and just go through it with a process rather than outcome based objective are better performed. Scoreboard should NEVER be a factor.

They did miss (about 3 out of ten)


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Post: # 1616356Post BigMart »

Btw
When you get an elite kid, who's gone through years of elite junior development academy pathways and got drafted.... Do you reckon they've had much instruction on basic set shot kicking mechanics?

Sometimes there is a basic flaw which is just too natural in ones kicking style
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They have an instinctive negative psychology wrt their ability to perform under pressure


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Post: # 1616363Post Enrico_Misso »

Sainternist wrote:Bring back Peter Hudson. Stewie Loewe's kicking for goal improved out of sight after getting goal kicking coaching for Hudson.
As I recall Huddo's method with Buckets involved an imaginary piece of string attached at one end to his genitals,
Sounds weird but took him from a hack goal kicker to 90+ goals.


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Enrico_Misso wrote:
Sainternist wrote:Bring back Peter Hudson. Stewie Loewe's kicking for goal improved out of sight after getting goal kicking coaching for Hudson.
As I recall Huddo's method with Buckets involved an imaginary piece of string attached at one end to his genitals,
Sounds weird but took him from a hack goal kicker to 90+ goals.
It was all to do with getting a smooth ball drop.


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Bunk_Moreland wrote:
Impatient Sainter wrote:Brad Johnson raised it last week with the lack of consistency in Paddy's technique when kicking at goals. Action went trom straight leg follow through to bent leg punch at the ball. The others who are meant to be excellent shots Billings is going at less than 50%, Membrey & Lonie also missing easy shots.

I know they are all very early in their AFL development but what a difference it would make if they could nail down their goal kicking consistency early in their careers.

We have plenty of developmemt coaches now I wonder if this is something that is analysed and worked on sufficiently?
He kicked both goals. One from 55 metres out the other from 40.

Who gives a fig what diver Johnson want to pot him about. He kicked both of the shots and both right down the middle.

So what is so inconsistent about 100% accuracy?

Moved on to potting Paddy now have you?
Whilst you are correct re the Essendon game did he feel under a bit less pressure playing against a VFL side compared to say the Hawks game? Not sure if that had a bit to do with his improved output.

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Post: # 1616368Post BigMart »

Only room for one on the 'high horse'

Initials are correct BM (I think, they used to be different I recall?)

I've seen Paddy slot a goal vs Collingwood VFL team from the right boundary 45out in the driving rain at Vic Park.
But also miss regularly from 35m.

Stewart Loewe was a poor kick, and unnatural kick most of his career. Huddo just straightened up his alignment (scratched he'd spot on ground, making a line between spot The mark and the goal umpire) and gave a consistent routine. This is only really possible on a set shot.
Loewe was never a chump... He kicked 90 in 1996 but was a B&F AA, Vic Rep and Brownlow favourite in 90. He was a star.


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Bunk_Moreland wrote:
Impatient Sainter wrote:Brad Johnson raised it last week with the lack of consistency in Paddy's technique when kicking at goals. Action went trom straight leg follow through to bent leg punch at the ball. The others who are meant to be excellent shots Billings is going at less than 50%, Membrey & Lonie also missing easy shots.

I know they are all very early in their AFL development but what a difference it would make if they could nail down their goal kicking consistency early in their careers.

We have plenty of developmemt coaches now I wonder if this is something that is analysed and worked on sufficiently?
He kicked both goals. One from 55 metres out the other from 40.

Who gives a fig what diver Johnson want to pot him about. He kicked both of the shots and both right down the middle.

So what is so inconsistent about 100% accuracy?

Moved on to potting Paddy now have you?
It's not really 100% when you kick 2.1 and one on the full.

But I was very excited to see that goal from 55.


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