Selection

[footynut]

The big question the needs to ask it self is, want does it to get out of this season!!

They need to be honest and have honest conversation. We are not going to win the premiership. And it looks unlikely that we will make the finals. Therefore we need to think about blooding players and building cohesiveness among the playing group who will take us forward.

Here's a few points they should consder:

It was evident on the weekend that our skills must improve! Focus on this at training, & where to kick it & where to run.

I’d even think about throwing Billings onto a BF, get the ball into his hands. Let see him use those foot skills everyone talks about away from goal. Build his confidence then rest/send him forward.

Rotate a few younger players into the team, guarantee them of 3 or 4 games in a row.

Make some hard calls eg leave out Geary our Captain, Brown, Gilbert (maybe not all as we need some experience, but focus on development and skills)

Despite Brown playing a good defensive game, he demonstrated why he needs to go on the weekend. There were several opportunities for him to mark the ball, however decided to use the double fisted punch whilst under limited pressure. On at least 2 occasions this resulted in a goal.


Brandon White, Logan Austin, Shane Savage
Jimmy Webster, Jake Carlisle, Jack Billings
Jack Sinclair, Blake Acres, Nick Coffield,
Josh Battle, Tim Membrey, Maverick Weller
Jade Gresham, Paddy McCartin, Ben Long
Tom Hickey, Sebastian Ross, Jack Steven

I/C: Luke Dunstan, Jack Steele, Jack Newnes
and one of Hunter Clark, Ed Phillips, Rowan Marshall or Rice

[Trev from the Bush]

Sounds good. Particularly if posters on this forum don't go into meltdown after Melbourne wins by about 20 goals,

And I think there is more chance of one of us winning Tattslotto next week than that happening!

[Saint wagga]

The big question the needs to ask it self is, want does it to get out of this season!!

They need to be honest and have honest conversation. We are not going to win the premiership. And it looks unlikely that we will make the finals. Therefore we need to think about blooding players and building cohesiveness among the playing group who will take us forward.

Here's a few points they should consder:

It was evident on the weekend that our skills must improve! Focus on this at training, & where to kick it & where to run.

I’d even think about throwing Billings onto a BF, get the ball into his hands. Let see him use those foot skills everyone talks about away from goal. Build his confidence then rest/send him forward.

Rotate a few younger players into the team, guarantee them of 3 or 4 games in a row.

Make some hard calls eg leave out Geary our Captain, Brown, Gilbert (maybe not all as we need some experience, but focus on development and skills)

Despite Brown playing a good defensive game, he demonstrated why he needs to go on the weekend. There were several opportunities for him to mark the ball, however decided to use the double fisted punch whilst under limited pressure. On at least 2 occasions this resulted in a goal.


Brandon White, Logan Austin, Shane Savage
Jimmy Webster, Jake Carlisle, Jack Billings
Jack Sinclair, Blake Acres, Nick Coffield,
Josh Battle, Tim Membrey, Maverick Weller
Jade Gresham, Paddy McCartin, Ben Long
Tom Hickey, Sebastian Ross, Jack Steven

I/C: Luke Dunstan, Jack Steele, Jack Newnes
and one of Hunter Clark, Ed Phillips, Rowan Marshall or Rice

Like the look of that team a lot! And the general sentiment of the post

[Yorkeys]

What was the line up for the third quarter of the JLT pre season game. Melbourne couldn't handle that one.

[saintbob]

The big question the needs to ask it self is, want does it to get out of this season!!

They need to be honest and have honest conversation. We are not going to win the premiership. And it looks unlikely that we will make the finals. Therefore we need to think about blooding players and building cohesiveness among the playing group who will take us forward.

Here's a few points they should consder:

It was evident on the weekend that our skills must improve! Focus on this at training, & where to kick it & where to run.

I’d even think about throwing Billings onto a BF, get the ball into his hands. Let see him use those foot skills everyone talks about away from goal. Build his confidence then rest/send him forward.

Rotate a few younger players into the team, guarantee them of 3 or 4 games in a row.

Make some hard calls eg leave out Geary our Captain, Brown, Gilbert (maybe not all as we need some experience, but focus on development and skills)

Despite Brown playing a good defensive game, he demonstrated why he needs to go on the weekend. There were several opportunities for him to mark the ball, however decided to use the double fisted punch whilst under limited pressure. On at least 2 occasions this resulted in a goal.


Brandon White, Logan Austin, Shane Savage
Jimmy Webster, Jake Carlisle, Jack Billings
Jack Sinclair, Blake Acres, Nick Coffield,
Josh Battle, Tim Membrey, Maverick Weller
Jade Gresham, Paddy McCartin, Ben Long
Tom Hickey, Sebastian Ross, Jack Steven

I/C: Luke Dunstan, Jack Steele, Jack Newnes
and one of Hunter Clark, Ed Phillips, Rowan Marshall or Rice

Like the look of that team a lot! And the general sentiment of the post

One change Weller out and Clark in

[Dave McNamara]

Selection?

People want Gresh and Billings out, saying they aren't doing enough. Ok then, stick them in the middle from the get go. Then they won't have any excuses for not doing enough.

[Dave McNamara]

Changes? Straight swap I reckon.

Out: Con G (managed).
In: Billy Longer.

That way, Saintsational will still get to play one man short.

[desertsaint]

Selection?

People want Gresh and Billings out, saying they aren't doing enough. Ok then, stick them in the middle from the get go. Then they won't have any excuses for not doing enough.

they don't have any excuses now. why make it worse?

[stonecold]

Changes? Straight swap I reckon.

Out: Con G (managed).
In: Billy Longer.

That way, Saintsational will still get to play one man short.

Funny f*** Dave, just what we need, bit of humour, also funny how no-one has really commented how BigBoy smashed Tom!!!!!

Just out of interest, when was the last time St.Kilda won a game with Tom playing 1st Ruck?????

Tom gets a bit of footy around the ground sure, but as he showed on Saturday night, has no defensive side to his game and provides zero physical presence!!!!!

Bill provides defensive side and physical presence, but not enough attacking side and ball getting ability!!!!!

Perhaps we could interbreed (racing terms) the two and come up with a decent ruck!!!!!

[Joffa Burns]

Changes? Straight swap I reckon.

Out: Con G (managed).
In: Billy Longer.

That way, Saintsational will still get to play one man short.

Funny f*** Dave, just what we need, bit of humour, also funny how no-one has really commented how BigBoy smashed Tom!!!!!

Just out of interest, when was the last time St.Kilda won a game with Tom playing 1st Ruck?????

Tom gets a bit of footy around the ground sure, but as he showed on Saturday night, has no defensive side to his game and provides zero physical presence!!!!!

Bill provides defensive side and physical presence, but not enough attacking side and ball getting ability!!!!!

Perhaps we could interbreed (racing terms) the two and come up with a decent ruck!!!!!

Agree LF, at 27 Hickey will never develop the physicality or body mass required to be a force at AFL level.
Billy will never have the appropriate skills to be an AFL player other than at a club like GWS where their mids will cover his skill inadequacy.

Both cost plenty and are a bust in my opinion and we should trade if anyone would take them.

Much more long term upside in Marshall and we need a back up for him.

[stonecold]

Yes Jaffa, at this point, both are the answer, however neither is!!!!!

Marshall needs time and play second fiddle!!!!!

[St Chris]

Marshall needs time and play second fiddle!!!!!

I still think Marshall should be developed as a key forward who can chop out in the ruck for 30% game time.

[IluvHarvey]

Changes? Straight swap I reckon.

Out: Con G (managed).
In: Billy Longer.

That way, Saintsational will still get to play one man short.

Funny f*** Dave, just what we need, bit of humour, also funny how no-one has really commented how BigBoy smashed Tom!!!!!

Just out of interest, when was the last time St.Kilda won a game with Tom playing 1st Ruck?????

Tom gets a bit of footy around the ground sure, but as he showed on Saturday night, has no defensive side to his game and provides zero physical presence!!!!!

Bill provides defensive side and physical presence, but not enough attacking side and ball getting ability!!!!!

Perhaps we could interbreed (racing terms) the two and come up with a decent ruck!!!!!

Knowing our luck we would end up with a ruckman who....

Has no defensive side
No physical impact
No attacking side
and
No ball getting ability.

[stonecold]

Marshall needs time and play second fiddle!!!!!

I still think Marshall should be developed as a key forward who can chop out in the ruck for 30% game time.

Yes, I agree, he is not a genuine ruck at this point!!!!!

[St DAC]

So of the 2 Hickey offers more than Billy. Play him & Marshall together which gives us a second marking target up forward with Paddy. Use Membrey as the mobile target, as that's his strength, not the big park mark.

I agree McEvoy beat Hickey overall but Hickey contributed around the ground, and Billy rarely does.

Of course your breeding idea could have merit ... but a spectacularly ugly result!

[St. Paul]

Lewis Pierce has to be worth a go. Just a couple of games. His form at Frankston has been solid. He and Marshall are our best hopes.

[stonecold]

Lewis Pierce has to be worth a go. Just a couple of games. His form at Frankston has been solid. He and Marshall are our best hopes.

As previously stated, play the most inform ruck at the time, along with Marshall as second string!!!!!

Put all players on notice and whomever is showing the best form plays!!!!!

Will be interesting to see if they stick with Hickledik or Longer who did well against Gawn last year!!!!!