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Tom Hickey

Post: # 1727442Post thejiggingsaint »

Among all the schitt on display last night, one bit of positive news ( for me at least) was the performance of Tom Hickey. The much maligned former no 1 ruckman gave Sandilands a darn good contest.


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Post: # 1727443Post SydneySainter »

Agreed. Making opposition rucks at least earn their possessions. Worth persevering with!


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Post: # 1727447Post thejiggingsaint »

SydneySainter wrote:Agreed. Making opposition rucks at least earn their possessions. Worth persevering with!
I have to confess that I’m chuffed to see Tom coming good.


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Re: Tom Hickey

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Longer is more physical and can play enforcer more, I guess, but as a pure footballer I’ve always rated Hickey higher
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bigcarl wrote:Longer is more physical and can okay enforcer more, I guess, but as a pure footballer I’ve always rated Hickey higher
Why not be bold..... play’em BOTH!


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Post: # 1727470Post SydneySainter »

thejiggingsaint wrote:
SydneySainter wrote:Agreed. Making opposition rucks at least earn their possessions. Worth persevering with!
I have to confess that I’m chuffed to see Tom coming good.
Like wise, always had faith in him.


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Re: Tom Hickey

Post: # 1727479Post wally »

I agree they should both be playing, let's face it Mason Cox gives Coll something and both these blokes are better
than him.Our current set-up needs something, anything.


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Post: # 1727481Post thejiggingsaint »

wally wrote:I agree they should both be playing, let's face it Mason Cox gives Coll something and both these blokes are better
than him.Our current set-up needs something, anything.
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Re: Tom Hickey

Post: # 1727485Post Sainternist »

Good to see big Chewie Hickey find some form lately.

Not sure if playing Longer is in our interests, unless Hickey gets injured. After this year, Longer's career in AFL will be done and dusted.


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Post: # 1727486Post realdeal »

thejiggingsaint wrote:
bigcarl wrote:Longer is more physical and can okay enforcer more, I guess, but as a pure footballer I’ve always rated Hickey higher
Why not be bold..... play’em BOTH!
Longer played crap in the Seniors, he's now playing crap for Sandy.

We need to keep going with Marshall as the back-up.


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Post: # 1727488Post The Recruit »

Longer is not an AFL footballer
Hickey is so much better


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Post: # 1727491Post The_Dud »

Where’s Stonecold’s input? How’d Longer go in the 2s today?


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Post: # 1727496Post bobmurray »

realdeal wrote:
thejiggingsaint wrote:
bigcarl wrote:Longer is more physical and can okay enforcer more, I guess, but as a pure footballer I’ve always rated Hickey higher
Why not be bold..... play’em BOTH!
Longer played crap in the Seniors, he's now playing crap for Sandy.

We need to keep going with Marshall as the back-up.
Based on the above post, can we delist or trade Longer at seasons end, we have more "spuds" on our list than any other club, we'll never get anywhere untill
we have a cull and draft or trade in talented players.

I'm over the shite St Kilda and Sandy dish up. Surely the club isn't going to run with same coaches players and staff in 2019.
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Post: # 1727497Post stonecold »

Three games in a row Tom's direct opponent in top 3 best players for their respective club's, (including last two opponents in Coaches votes and Sandilands will make it 3, in 3 games)!!!!!

You are getting carried away by some cheap around the ground possies!!!!!

Have a look at Sandilands toy and dominate centre bounces last night, resulted in many Freo goals!!!!!

Tom continues to refuse to defend and let's he's direct opponent have a massive influence!!!!!

He has lots of work to do!!!!!

Many of you are undereducated at the true art of ruck work!!!!!

All the best to you though, you opinions are welcome and valued, somewhere!!!!! ;)


'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!

We will be great again once Billy is back playing!!!!!


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Post: # 1727499Post stonecold »

The Recruit wrote:Longer is not an AFL footballer
Hickey is so much better


Hickey's opponent in best 3 again for their respective club, 3 games in a row now, if that's good for saints footy, that explains why are so s***!!!!!


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Post: # 1727501Post stonecold »

The_Dud wrote:Where’s Stonecold’s input? How’d Longer go in the 2s today?
There's your input, straight from the opposition and coaches!!!!!


Sandilands smashed Tom last night, end of story, don't kid yourselves!!!!!


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Post: # 1727507Post saynta »

thejiggingsaint wrote:Among all the schitt on display last night, one bit of positive news ( for me at least) was the performance of Tom Hickey. The much maligned former no 1 ruckman gave Sandilands a darn good contest.
Love Hickey's endeavour.

He, along with Webster, Marshall, Long, Coffield and Brown all try their hearts out each week


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Post: # 1727519Post Stephen Theodore »

Have to agree with stoneCold here, I thought Sandilands gave his midfielders an arm chair ride. Hickey is good aerobically, ran and picked up possessions, but for pure ruck work he got flogged.


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Post: # 1727520Post Stephen Theodore »

Have to agree with stoneCold here, I thought Sandilands gave his midfielders an arm chair ride. Hickey is good aerobicall, ran and picked up possessions, but for pure ruck work he got flogged.


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Re: Tom Hickey

Post: # 1727530Post Superboot »

We don’t have a complete ruckman.

Tom gets beaten at the bounces and gives away stupid frees at the worst possible time (viz. against North last year) but is quite useful around the ground.

Longer is more competitive at the bounces but completely and utterly useless around the ground

We don’t have Michael Gardiner. Wish to hell we did.

Oh, and I’ll never forget the day Jason Blake beat Sandilands in Tassie.


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bigcarl wrote:Longer is more physical and can play enforcer more, I guess, but as a pure footballer I’ve always rated Hickey higher
I know that Longer’s strengths are supposed to be his big frame and contest in the hitout, but when he’s beaten in that department, we really are playing a man down, as per round 1 and 2.


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Re: Tom Hickey

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SydneySainter wrote:
bigcarl wrote:Longer is more physical and can play enforcer more, I guess, but as a pure footballer I’ve always rated Hickey higher
I know that Longer’s strengths are supposed to be his big frame and contest in the hitout, but when he’s beaten in that department, we really are playing a man down, as per round 1 and 2.
If you combined them you’d have a complete ruckman. I can see Hickey developing in the ruck duels. Not so sure about Billy being able to develop ability around the ground.


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Re: Tom Hickey

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SydneySainter wrote:
bigcarl wrote:Longer is more physical and can play enforcer more, I guess, but as a pure footballer I’ve always rated Hickey higher
I know that Longer’s strengths are supposed to be his big frame and contest in the hitout, but when he’s beaten in that department, we really are playing a man down, as per round 1 and 2.
If you combined them you’d have a complete ruckman. I can see Hickey developing in the ruck duels. Not so sure Billy has the same scope for improvement around the ground.


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Post: # 1727553Post Joffa Burns »

Must have been watching a different match than most of you.
I thought Hickey got slaughtered by Sandilands.
He was ok around the ground but smashed in the center bounces and ball ups.
He fared better at the boundary throw ins.

I disagree with Stoney on defense, I think Hickey defends his man far better when the opposition ruck runs forward than Longer ever has.


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Post: # 1727563Post Teflon »

Joffa Burns wrote:Must have been watching a different match than most of you.
I thought Hickey got slaughtered by Sandilands.
He was ok around the ground but smashed in the center bounces and ball ups.
He fared better at the boundary throw ins.

I disagree with Stoney on defense, I think Hickey defends his man far better when the opposition ruck runs forward than Longer ever has.
Agree re defence
At least Hickey goes forward and can jag a goal and has a second effort at ground level longer has none of that
I'm not even that convinced the hit outs always culminate in clear mid advantage often times (some yes but they're not as prevalent as you'd think for mine as sides know how to pick these off)
I certainly didn't think Hickey was our worst that's for sure


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