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How the fixture screwed St Kilda

Post: # 1761509Post kosifantutti »

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St Kilda is no stranger to scheduling screwings. It had the AFL’s worst fixture in 2014, the worst in 2015, the 9th best in 2016, and the worst in 2017. This year, it was the worst again, and that was also the worst fixture of any team in five years.


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Holy crap. Club should be jumping up and down about this.


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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda

Post: # 1761547Post Enrico_Misso »

st.byron wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 9:35pm Holy crap. Club should be jumping up and down about this.
They SHOULD be.
And they SHOULD be jumping up and down about the freekick imbalance we get in Perth which over the last decade is the worst in the competition.

SHOULD, SHOULD.

But they WON'T WON'T.

Because they are WEAK WEAK !


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Post: # 1761550Post SaintPav »

Don't worry, it all evens out over one hundred years or so..


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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda

Post: # 1761554Post rodgerfox »

Enrico_Misso wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:10pm
st.byron wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 9:35pm Holy crap. Club should be jumping up and down about this.
They SHOULD be.
And they SHOULD be jumping up and down about the freekick imbalance we get in Perth which over the last decade is the worst in the competition.

SHOULD, SHOULD.

But they WON'T WON'T.

Because they are WEAK WEAK !
Can I ask what 'jumping up and down' will achieve?


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Post: # 1761557Post SydneySainter »

So it’s not our fault we can’t attract quality players and North and Essendon are already ahead of us as “destination clubs,” it’s the fixtures fault?


Until we have an administration that demands success and a playing group that bleeds for the guernsey, St. Kilda will just be a sh*tty football club.
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Re: How the fixture screwed St Kilda

Post: # 1761561Post Enrico_Misso »

rodgerfox wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:21pm
Enrico_Misso wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:10pm
st.byron wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 9:35pm Holy crap. Club should be jumping up and down about this.
They SHOULD be.
And they SHOULD be jumping up and down about the freekick imbalance we get in Perth which over the last decade is the worst in the competition.

SHOULD, SHOULD.

But they WON'T WON'T.

Because they are WEAK WEAK !
Can I ask what 'jumping up and down' will achieve?
In a word "Justice".

If we don't forcefully call injustices out then we will routinely be trampled all over in perpetuity.

Some of the questions we should be asking ...
Why was our double-up draw this year 2/2/1 instead of 1/2/2?
Why have we had a massive imbalance (over the last 5 years) of 8 more away games against teams at interstate (+Kardinia Park) venues than playing them at our home - including 3 this year?
Why do we get more 6 day breaks than the league average?
Why do we get banished to twilight zone time more than any other side?
Why do we have the worst free kick imbalance in Perth?

The fact that these issues are not averaging out over multiple seasons indicates clearly they are NOT random.
So why is there an agenda against us?


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Post: # 1761564Post satchmo »

kosifantutti wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 9:16pm https://squiggle.com.au/how-the-fixture ... -st-kilda/
St Kilda is no stranger to scheduling screwings. It had the AFL’s worst fixture in 2014, the worst in 2015, the 9th best in 2016, and the worst in 2017. This year, it was the worst again, and that was also the worst fixture of any team in five years.
Anyone surprised?


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Post: # 1761580Post rodgerfox »

Enrico_Misso wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:42pm
rodgerfox wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:21pm
Enrico_Misso wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:10pm
st.byron wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 9:35pm Holy crap. Club should be jumping up and down about this.
They SHOULD be.
And they SHOULD be jumping up and down about the freekick imbalance we get in Perth which over the last decade is the worst in the competition.

SHOULD, SHOULD.

But they WON'T WON'T.

Because they are WEAK WEAK !
Can I ask what 'jumping up and down' will achieve?
In a word "Justice".

If we don't forcefully call injustices out then we will routinely be trampled all over in perpetuity.

Some of the questions we should be asking ...
Why was our double-up draw this year 2/2/1 instead of 1/2/2?
Why have we had a massive imbalance (over the last 5 years) of 8 more away games against teams at interstate (+Kardinia Park) venues than playing them at our home - including 3 this year?
Why do we get more 6 day breaks than the league average?
Why do we get banished to twilight zone time more than any other side?
Why do we have the worst free kick imbalance in Perth?

The fact that these issues are not averaging out over multiple seasons indicates clearly they are NOT random.
So why is there an agenda against us?
But doesn't everyone know the answer to those questions?

It's like wondering why WNBL players get paid less than NBA players or why Johnny Depp played a Native American in The Lone Ranger - it's because the AFL is an entertainment business. Its business model revolves around people consuming their product. Full stop.

That means bums on seats, and eyes on TV screens.

Don't blame the club. Blame the fact that Richmond, Collingwood, Essendon, Carlton etc. have and always will have about 200,000 more supporters than we do.

No matter how much anyone 'jumps up and down', until the Saints put as much money into the AFL as the big clubs do, we will continue to be treated the way the we are. Because we just don't matter.

It just is what it is.


I honestly don't know why people get so huffy about it.


If you don't like it, you just need to find another hobby, or barrack for a different team. Cause it's never, ever going to change.


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Post: # 1761592Post Enrico_Misso »

rodgerfox wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 11:09pm
Enrico_Misso wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:42pm
rodgerfox wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:21pm
Enrico_Misso wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:10pm
st.byron wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 9:35pm Holy crap. Club should be jumping up and down about this.
They SHOULD be.
And they SHOULD be jumping up and down about the freekick imbalance we get in Perth which over the last decade is the worst in the competition.

SHOULD, SHOULD.

But they WON'T WON'T.

Because they are WEAK WEAK !
Can I ask what 'jumping up and down' will achieve?
In a word "Justice".

If we don't forcefully call injustices out then we will routinely be trampled all over in perpetuity.

Some of the questions we should be asking ...
Why was our double-up draw this year 2/2/1 instead of 1/2/2?
Why have we had a massive imbalance (over the last 5 years) of 8 more away games against teams at interstate (+Kardinia Park) venues than playing them at our home - including 3 this year?
Why do we get more 6 day breaks than the league average?
Why do we get banished to twilight zone time more than any other side?
Why do we have the worst free kick imbalance in Perth?

The fact that these issues are not averaging out over multiple seasons indicates clearly they are NOT random.
So why is there an agenda against us?
But doesn't everyone know the answer to those questions?

It's like wondering why WNBL players get paid less than NBA players or why Johnny Depp played a Native American in The Lone Ranger - it's because the AFL is an entertainment business. Its business model revolves around people consuming their product. Full stop.

That means bums on seats, and eyes on TV screens.

Don't blame the club. Blame the fact that Richmond, Collingwood, Essendon, Carlton etc. have and always will have about 200,000 more supporters than we do.

No matter how much anyone 'jumps up and down', until the Saints put as much money into the AFL as the big clubs do, we will continue to be treated the way the we are. Because we just don't matter.

It just is what it is.


I honestly don't know why people get so huffy about it.


If you don't like it, you just need to find another hobby, or barrack for a different team. Cause it's never, ever going to change.
Mmmmm
Sorry, I thought AFL was a "sport" not entertainment.

Perhaps top rated USA/China/Russian Olympic athletes should bi-pass heats/semis and go straight into their finals to maximise bums on seats and eyes on TV screens?


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Post: # 1761605Post rodgerfox »

Enrico_Misso wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 11:44pm
Mmmmm
Sorry, I thought AFL was a "sport" not entertainment.
Well, quite frankly - you're wrong.


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Post: # 1761612Post SaintPav »

Correlation and bias issues (eg sampling, cherry picking etc).

”Correlation does not imply causation”.

Also, issue of simultaneity: X causes changes in Y and Y causes changes in X.


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AFL not serious about level playing field. The rich get richer the poor get the picture.
Stronger minds needed to ignore the demands of the Perth din.


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Yep, we're always the AFL's whipping boy club. Even when we do well, they still punish us. Damned if we do, damned if we don't!! :evil:


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Sainternist wrote: Thu 11 Oct 2018 11:02am Yep, we're always the AFL's whipping boy club. Even when we do well, they still punish us. Damned if we do, damned if we don't!! :evil:
Yeap, unlike the Filth who get the easiest draw every year!!!!!


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stonecold wrote: Thu 11 Oct 2018 11:05am
Sainternist wrote: Thu 11 Oct 2018 11:02am Yep, we're always the AFL's whipping boy club. Even when we do well, they still punish us. Damned if we do, damned if we don't!! :evil:
Yeap, unlike the Filth who get the easiest draw every year!!!!!
Sadly, the Filth are the AFL's greatest asset.


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Post: # 1761704Post Joffa Burns »

Only matters if you are not good enough.

Nothing to see here or whine about.

Win games, draw crowds get better fixture.


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Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 11 Oct 2018 12:10pm Only matters if you are not good enough.

Nothing to see here or whine about.

Win games, draw crowds get better fixture.
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Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 11 Oct 2018 12:10pm Only matters if you are not good enough.

Nothing to see here or whine about.

Win games, draw crowds get better fixture.
Not true, I wish it was but it's not.


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Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 11 Oct 2018 12:10pm Only matters if you are not good enough.

Nothing to see here or whine about.

Win games, draw crowds get better fixture.
Not true.

Might get one or two night games, but that's about it..On someone else's home deck. We would still travel to Perth Twice, Adelaide twice and Queensland twice, KP at least once and probably down to Tasmania also.

Plus most of our home games would be Sunday f****** twilight.

Almost all our games next year will be twilight games.


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Post: # 1761737Post desertsaint »

will be worst again next year with the trip to china. this year port got compensated very well with the draw after that game, gold coast not so much.
mind you, given it's a 'home' game that algorithmn may incorrectly assess it to our advantage.


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Post: # 1761769Post Joffa Burns »

CURLY wrote: Thu 11 Oct 2018 1:13pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 11 Oct 2018 12:10pm Only matters if you are not good enough.

Nothing to see here or whine about.

Win games, draw crowds get better fixture.
Not true, I wish it was but it's not.
Add this to the umpires conspiracy against us and we’re totally stuffed curls 😉


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Enrico_Misso wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:42pm
rodgerfox wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:21pm
Enrico_Misso wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 10:10pm
st.byron wrote: Wed 10 Oct 2018 9:35pm Holy crap. Club should be jumping up and down about this.
They SHOULD be.
And they SHOULD be jumping up and down about the freekick imbalance we get in Perth which over the last decade is the worst in the competition.

SHOULD, SHOULD.

But they WON'T WON'T.

Because they are WEAK WEAK !
Can I ask what 'jumping up and down' will achieve?
In a word "Justice".

If we don't forcefully call injustices out then we will routinely be trampled all over in perpetuity.

Some of the questions we should be asking ...
Why was our double-up draw this year 2/2/1 instead of 1/2/2?
Why have we had a massive imbalance (over the last 5 years) of 8 more away games against teams at interstate (+Kardinia Park) venues than playing them at our home - including 3 this year?
Why do we get more 6 day breaks than the league average?
Why do we get banished to twilight zone time more than any other side?
Why do we have the worst free kick imbalance in Perth?

The fact that these issues are not averaging out over multiple seasons indicates clearly they are NOT random.
So why is there an agenda against us?
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Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 11 Oct 2018 4:49pm
CURLY wrote: Thu 11 Oct 2018 1:13pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Thu 11 Oct 2018 12:10pm Only matters if you are not good enough.

Nothing to see here or whine about.

Win games, draw crowds get better fixture.
Not true, I wish it was but it's not.
Add this to the umpires conspiracy against us and we’re totally stuffed curls 😉
Collingwood. Easiest draw best free kicks for most goals from frees = finals.


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