Hannebury Hamstring Awareness & Lethlean

[BarryGrogan]

Just caught Footy Classified from last night.

Barrett reporting that Hannebury in fact has 'hamstring awareness' which was why he was 'rested'.

Also between him and Wilson, it was alluded to that as a result of the Hannebury call by Lethlean, which hasn't been a great one - his influence at the club has been diminished somewhat.


Bassett apparently has stepped up and will be fairly hands on in the coaching recruitment process.


Interesting....

[SaintPav]

What a complete and utter abomination.

[B.M]

I hope Hannebury comes good, for 1 reason above all others!

Would I have recruited him
Absolutely

[Crossy66]

Just caught Footy Classified from last night.

Barrett reporting that Hannebury in fact has 'hamstring awareness' which was why he was 'rested'.

Also between him and Wilson, it was alluded to that as a result of the Hannebury call by Lethlean, which hasn't been a great one - his influence at the club has been diminished somewhat.


Bassett apparently has stepped up and will be fairly hands on in the coaching recruitment process.


Interesting....

Mmmm.... a president, along term saints tragic and owns the most successful recruitment platform in the country.
Gotta think we are some chance of getting this right?

[Ghost Like]

I hope Hannebury comes good, for 1 reason above all others!

Would I have recruited him
Absolutely

On that length of contract for that amount of money? Any terms attached?

I think these were some points that frustrated and confused a lot of supporters. They still do, me included.

[The_Dud]

So DH now has 3 consecutive years ruined by chronic injury, and we expect him to cone back next year at 29 and hit AA $1M per year (rolling over the $800k he def didn’t earn this year) form for the next four years?

What a joke.

[Yorkeys]

If SL has lost some credibility re Dan, where is MF at re Alan?

[B.M]

Don’t exaggerate

Was his 2017 that poor?

570 disposals, 14 goals, 6 Brownlow votes

His 2018 and front half of 2019 were injury effected

And yes, I do expect him to come back at 29 and play good footy, and at 30 and 31.

Question
Who on our current list would you like to pay big bucks so we hit the minimum Salary Cap spend?
Dunstan, Newnes, Ross,
We signed up Billings and Gresham regardless of paying Dan, and we still have over a Million spare

[To the top]

Along with other Clubs we have put offers to significant players - with no success

It is beyond debate that post the retirement of Riewoldt, Montagna, Fisher and Dempster we have lacked class experience

We recruited Carlisle

Further, in regards home grown class experience Armitage is now at the stage of his career he us at plus Steven is absent

They were the sum result of player development under Lyon

The remainder of those we have obtained from other Clubs were not first choice selections at those Clubs

So we start with the Draft that gave us Billings, Dunstan and Acres in terms of rebuild

And those kids need support from mature performers with class - where we only have Carlisle for our efforts

So Hannebery was available

And we took him because his profile including his experience is what it is

And we badly need that profile and experience

Particularly to support our emerging players - so Billings, Dunstan, Acres, Mc Cartin (hopefully), Gresham, Clark, Coffield and King

To me it is not Hannebery and his Contract

It is the needs of the Club given the demographics of our dysfunctional List

And, if Hannebery succeeds with the support of the Club including its players and supporter base then the very fact that he is at St Kilda and contributing may, just may, give credibility to our attempts to tempt other high profile players to the Club

You have to start somewhere

And if we didn’t have Hannebery we would still be looking at the start line

The summary is think bigger picture people

We have now attracted 2 high profile players in Carlisle and Hannebery

Now we need number 3 and number 4

Then we start to get somewhere

[B.M]

Correct

And we went all in for Sheil at 1.4M

We have money to burn, if we actually burn that money so be it. What I’m about is attracting quality.

If we got Sheil, do we realise we would not have King?! Glad we didn’t get him at that cost (draft pick not salary)

If we could afford Hannebury, WTF not
He cost us a down grade of 10 picks

[mightysainters]

Oh ffs.. how are people still defending this now... HOW?!?
The guys body is Fkd.. I’m all for paying overs... BUT FOR A GUY WHO ACTUALLY PLAYS!!!!!

[8bloggs]

Agree with TTT about the need for leadership support.
Lethlean took the risk on Hannebery and let's hope it works; else it's going to get ugly soon in the administration.
We don't have leaders who are also our best players. For me Geary may have the player's respect and be the captain but he is not a player that worries the opposition.
We desperately need another high profile player who can develop leadership in the younger players onfield. Hard to see how we are going to attract such a player.
Lethlean has made plenty of changes but what else can he do?
I'm struggling to split whether our lack of performance this season is coach or list related.

[Special]

Barrett is todger toking pole smoking roger rooting ratsack swine shyster slime ball who can’t be trusted as far as you could kick his sorry swarmy arse.

#in Barks4eva we Trust

[The_Dud]

Don’t exaggerate

Was his 2017 that poor?

570 disposals, 14 goals, 6 Brownlow votes

His 2018 and front half of 2019 were injury effected

And yes, I do expect him to come back at 29 and play good footy, and at 30 and 31.

Question
Who on our current list would you like to pay big bucks so we hit the minimum Salary Cap spend?
Dunstan, Newnes, Ross,
We signed up Billings and Gresham regardless of paying Dan, and we still have over a Million spare

I think it’s widely accepted, from his own mouth I believe, that his last 2 years at the Swans he was playing injured. Yes his 2017 stats aren’t that bad, though down on his previous years.

Whether we had the money to burn is irrelevant. There was no bidding war, no one else was going near him. Imagine if we had some or all of that $4M now to throw (on top of what we already are) at a YOUNG star coming into his prime? A Kelly or a Coniglio or similar? That’s the future of the club.

Plus paying that much for DH artificially inflates everyone elses perceived worth.

In no universe will a 33 year old Hannebery be worth $800k. It’s ridiculous. Was Roo even on that much at that age??

[Special]

Don’t exaggerate

Was his 2017 that poor?

570 disposals, 14 goals, 6 Brownlow votes

His 2018 and front half of 2019 were injury effected

And yes, I do expect him to come back at 29 and play good footy, and at 30 and 31.

Question
Who on our current list would you like to pay big bucks so we hit the minimum Salary Cap spend?
Dunstan, Newnes, Ross,
We signed up Billings and Gresham regardless of paying Dan, and we still have over a Million spare

I think it’s widely accepted, from his own mouth I believe, that his last 2 years at the Swans he was playing injured. Yes his 2017 stats aren’t that bad, though down on his previous years.

Whether we had the money to burn is irrelevant. There was no bidding war, no one else was going near him. Imagine if we had some or all of that $4M now to throw (on top of what we already are) at a YOUNG star coming into his prime? A Kelly or a Coniglio or similar? That’s the future of the club.

Plus paying that much for DH artificially inflates everyone elses perceived worth.

In no universe will a 33 year old Hannebery be worth $800k. It’s ridiculous. Was Roo even on that much at that age??

Newnes, Dunny, Acres, Ross. None of them are worth even half of Dan’a salary, yet they are prob all on something close to that.

What would you prefer? Us to have not taken on Hanners and our current list of B grade specialists earning an extra 50K per annum each??

[Saintmatt]

Along with other Clubs we have put offers to significant players - with no success

It is beyond debate that post the retirement of Riewoldt, Montagna, Fisher and Dempster we have lacked class experience

We recruited Carlisle

Further, in regards home grown class experience Armitage is now at the stage of his career he us at plus Steven is absent

They were the sum result of player development under Lyon

The remainder of those we have obtained from other Clubs were not first choice selections at those Clubs

So we start with the Draft that gave us Billings, Dunstan and Acres in terms of rebuild

And those kids need support from mature performers with class - where we only have Carlisle for our efforts

So Hannebery was available

And we took him because his profile including his experience is what it is

And we badly need that profile and experience

Particularly to support our emerging players - so Billings, Dunstan, Acres, Mc Cartin (hopefully), Gresham, Clark, Coffield and King

To me it is not Hannebery and his Contract

It is the needs of the Club given the demographics of our dysfunctional List

And, if Hannebery succeeds with the support of the Club including its players and supporter base then the very fact that he is at St Kilda and contributing may, just may, give credibility to our attempts to tempt other high profile players to the Club

You have to start somewhere

And if we didn’t have Hannebery we would still be looking at the start line

The summary is think bigger picture people

We have now attracted 2 high profile players in Carlisle and Hannebery

Now we need number 3 and number 4

Then we start to get somewhere

Bang on. Tick

[whiskers3614]

Heaven help us if Carlisle and DH are going to provide leadership!
One was stupid enough to record his extra carricular activities and the other is widely reputed to be a "playmate" of Buddy's.Why not get Bennell and Beams to complete our leadership group.

[Ghost Like]

Totally understand the need for experience a quality player like Hannerbury can add to a rebuilding list. Still unable to figure out the nuances of the deal.

Sydney needed cap space, Hannerbury struggling to get on the park and taking a chunk of their cap. We not only take the remainder of that contract but add 3 years, some interest and a draft pick for a player no one else was going near.

I loved the 2015 / 2016 Hannerbury, so did Sydney. It was the 2017 / 2018 model that had the owner disillusioned and suitors doing nothing more than kick its tyres.

This brings me to my pet hate in the AFL, why clubs have to pay a set amount (95%) of the cap? This alone inflates players' worths and keeps poor clubs poor and hamstrung. I know you can front end, back end contracts but you cannot predict the future and guarantee certain players availabilities. Is the St Kilda or Gold Coast lists worth 95% of GWS, Collingwood, WCE or Geelongs lists?

[Waltzing St Kilda]

Not sure how motivating it is for the playing group to have the top-paid player at the club an import who can't get on the track.

No matter how shrewd he is about tactics.

A highly dubious decision that was widely panned before it happened, including by Malthouse. And yet, despite having a lamentable record with injured players. the club went through with it anyway.

Lethlean's influence should have been questioned much earlier.

[Scollop]

Heaven help us if Carlisle and DH are going to provide leadership!
One was stupid enough to record his extra carricular activities and the other is widely reputed to be a "playmate" of Buddy's.Why not get Bennell and Beams to complete our leadership group.

And the perfect coach for St Kilda is.....Mark Thompson

That's if Bomber gets off with a suspended sentence

[lewdogs]

Not sure how motivating it is for the playing group to have the top-paid player at the club an import who can't get on the track.

No matter how shrewd he is about tactics.

A highly dubious decision that was widely panned before it happened, including by Malthouse. And yet, despite having a lamentable record with injured players. the club went through with it anyway.

Lethlean's influence should have been questioned much earlier.

He has achieved more in his career than any player on our list. Hardly think they'd be in a position to complain just because he's injured.

[Enrico_Misso]

Why does StK think they know better.

Collingwood with all their resources knew that Freeman was finished.
But we knew better.
Our medical experts said we can rebuild him.

Sydney new that loyal servant and human battering ram Hanners was near the end of the road.
But we knew better.
Our medical experts said we can rebuild him.

Why do we take the difficult high risk path?
Like using a number one pick on a diabetic.

Our recruiting is littered with high risk and inept decisions.
Why?

[The_Dud]

Don’t exaggerate

Was his 2017 that poor?

570 disposals, 14 goals, 6 Brownlow votes

His 2018 and front half of 2019 were injury effected

And yes, I do expect him to come back at 29 and play good footy, and at 30 and 31.

Question
Who on our current list would you like to pay big bucks so we hit the minimum Salary Cap spend?
Dunstan, Newnes, Ross,
We signed up Billings and Gresham regardless of paying Dan, and we still have over a Million spare

I think it’s widely accepted, from his own mouth I believe, that his last 2 years at the Swans he was playing injured. Yes his 2017 stats aren’t that bad, though down on his previous years.

Whether we had the money to burn is irrelevant. There was no bidding war, no one else was going near him. Imagine if we had some or all of that $4M now to throw (on top of what we already are) at a YOUNG star coming into his prime? A Kelly or a Coniglio or similar? That’s the future of the club.

Plus paying that much for DH artificially inflates everyone elses perceived worth.

In no universe will a 33 year old Hannebery be worth $800k. It’s ridiculous. Was Roo even on that much at that age??

Newnes, Dunny, Acres, Ross. None of them are worth even half of Dan’a salary, yet they are prob all on something close to that.

What would you prefer? Us to have not taken on Hanners and our current list of B grade specialists earning an extra 50K per annum each??

If any of those players are on anything near $800k then our club might as well shut up shop now.

Billings, Carlisle, Steven, and maybe Marshall should be the only ones around that number.

And remember how we moved Hickey on because apparently he was costing too much? Laughable.

I’d rather keep the Hannerbry money and have the ability to offer one or two young stars $200-$400k a season more than anybody else.

[Cordz2]

Just caught Footy Classified from last night.

Barrett reporting that Hannebury in fact has 'hamstring awareness' which was why he was 'rested'.

Also between him and Wilson, it was alluded to that as a result of the Hannebury call by Lethlean, which hasn't been a great one - his influence at the club has been diminished somewhat.


Bassett apparently has stepped up and will be fairly hands on in the coaching recruitment process.


Interesting....

Mmmm.... a president, along term saints tragic and owns the most successful recruitment platform in the country.
Gotta think we are some chance of getting this right?

You’d freaking hope so wouldn’t you?

[Cordz2]

Along with other Clubs we have put offers to significant players - with no success

It is beyond debate that post the retirement of Riewoldt, Montagna, Fisher and Dempster we have lacked class experience

We recruited Carlisle

Further, in regards home grown class experience Armitage is now at the stage of his career he us at plus Steven is absent

They were the sum result of player development under Lyon

The remainder of those we have obtained from other Clubs were not first choice selections at those Clubs

So we start with the Draft that gave us Billings, Dunstan and Acres in terms of rebuild

And those kids need support from mature performers with class - where we only have Carlisle for our efforts

So Hannebery was available

And we took him because his profile including his experience is what it is

And we badly need that profile and experience

Particularly to support our emerging players - so Billings, Dunstan, Acres, Mc Cartin (hopefully), Gresham, Clark, Coffield and King

To me it is not Hannebery and his Contract

It is the needs of the Club given the demographics of our dysfunctional List

And, if Hannebery succeeds with the support of the Club including its players and supporter base then the very fact that he is at St Kilda and contributing may, just may, give credibility to our attempts to tempt other high profile players to the Club

You have to start somewhere

And if we didn’t have Hannebery we would still be looking at the start line

The summary is think bigger picture people

We have now attracted 2 high profile players in Carlisle and Hannebery

Now we need number 3 and number 4

Then we start to get somewhere

Hear Hear