I have zero confidence that we'll appeal it. Ken Sheldon's post hearing comments make we even less confident (if that's possible). On what grounds would we appeal? :? The finding of guilty is flawed - in that the AFL failed to prove an unlawful action occured. That there was sufficient doubt presen...

Sheesh, we either need a new defence lawyer or the system was tainted.

Obviously stringing it out so that the Saints have to pay our QC subtantially more - on his no doubt substantial hourly rate.

Stephen Theodore wrote:Any other witnesses other than the Freo Trainer ?

Ricky Nixon apparently

No consiracy!!?? Then why does the star "prosecution" witness get a copy of the testimonies of both parties - BEFORE he has to go and testify?? Which has NEVER happened before and wouldn't in any court of law or tribunal in the land. Sems he could then tailor his testimony to suit the argu...

Thornton is thinking .. what's that hot breath on my back?? What the....

How absurd this is becoming!! Why is it still going??

So are you saying the Club are ok about Bakes being cited Plugger? Are they confident of justice being seen to be done like it always is in games against Freo? I appreciate you're point of view Plugger - and I too, hope a conspiracy doesn't exist. However, I have very little confidence in the way t...

It's just another example of the media dictating to the AFL what should and shouldn't be going to the tribunal!!

If there had have been no hysteria from the media and certain "commentators" - then this would have been overlooked on the grounds of no footage - no case.

If Bakes goes - then we need a new defence advocate / lawyer. This is a soda for any lawyer with just a smidgin of ability to get thrown out. How any legal system can operate where an obvious bias exists with a witness, is beyond comprehension. And both Buckley and Voss SHOULD be fined for commentin...

Happy Birthday Champ. Still only a youngun!!

Scotty Burns is a close mate of Andrew Thompson. Well liked and respected amongst his peers.

Life Long Saint wrote:Fair call...his action could have ended Bell's career.

And ruined his life!!

Agree. Heard that to. Voss at first definately says didn't see it - but then, for reasons unknown (perhaps to sound smart!!??) he says he did see it. The explanation I heard today that Bakes has just stopped dead in front of Farmer, who then cannoned into the back of his head is a very plausible exp...

A rabble?? Yesterday?? sheesh - how ridiculous!! We played a good team, on a role who were having crack, we copped injuries along the way - finished with 2 on the bench. And won the game with a very even performance across the whole game - plenty to like about that performance yesterday. Plenty.

It is tough - and I love watching footy!! It didn't really occur to me how slow our game is until I watched the pussies play against the Crows last weekend. They are exciting, and have skills and pace. I'm sure it is only a trend - and I think, once the coach has the list of his choice - there will ...

Well I heard that Jim Watts has left his job at the AFL to join the StKilda Board and eventually become President so that he can force the Coach to select his son. Great rumour, I'd run with that one Go for it! :) Maybe it will be in the mainstream media soon? :D Don't worry - Caroline Wilson will ...

I guess for 25 odd years they were the best of friends. now its gone sour they are splashing it all over the place like a pair of drunken bull elephants. :evil: :evil: :evil: Yes, and that's what annoys me the most - all that good work they did together at St.Kilda is being eroded by their antics o...

I haven't seen the vision of this incident. Was it similar to Greg Williams pushing/fending the umpire away that got him an 8 week deregistration? Almost identical. no it wasnt...heath shaw meerly attempted to show how he was using his body in a contest that he got done for hands in the back form m...

Mr Magic wrote:I haven't seen the vision of this incident. Was it similar to Greg Williams pushing/fending the umpire away that got him an 8 week deregistration?

Almost identical.

True. I imagine Watts is a wealthy man - he could work p/time from home (consultancy??) and be on the Saints board without impacting on family life so much.

Maybe, RB is manipulating all of this to 'shore up' his own position in the mmoted Board challenge? What if he is offering Watts a vice-presiddency with the understanding he will do a Hawke/Keating handover down the track? MM, why would he want a VP or Presidency? (Not saying he wouldn't but not su...

The Pavlich comment was his opinion. Whether that opinion is correct is up for debate but it was simply an observation from someone who admitted not knowing him. I'm surprised it was even discussed 5 minutes after he raised it. Calling one of the biggest names in the game and a genuine superstar se...

I don't care how it got into the media - it is there .... again!! Totally fed up with GT's issues with his ex-employer, enough already.

I too wish that GT would just keep his gob shut, only time I want to hear from him is if he has something good, uplifting and positive to say. It's getting to the stage that everytime I pick up the paper or turn on the tv - there is some GT controversy going on!! He'll end up losing all the respect ...