Read between the lines.
The point is, the gun players aren't always in round 1, a bit of luck can net a gun not matter where they are drafted, as long as they are developed well. Hawthorn have a great system and the likes of Sam Mitchel taken at 37? is testament. Been there and seen it personally.

Paul Salmon wasn't a bad tall taken after Pick 10.

2001, what a phenomenal draft. Drafted Ball.....could have drafted Judd Drafted Xman.....could have drafted Bartel Drafted Nic D Drafted Goose Maguire....could have drafted Stevie J Drafted Montagna Drafted Josh Houlihan.....could have drafted Dane Swan or Paul Salmon Also, Aaron Rogers taken at 26 ...

Team is made up of best recruits the year he (Ray) was drafted.

turn the sound off! much more pleasant

obviously you have nothing better to do but take the mickey out of fellow forum members

who has the time and patience to wade thru 21 pages of ......

Sam Gilbert - granted, he is a good player, but is in his second year, not his first.

Forget the Position of Draftees.......... It would be nice to recruit a player that actually does something in their first year and beyond!!! Some players making an impact in their first year at other clubs this year include - Rioli for Hawthorn Taylor for Geelong Wellingham, Anthony for Collingwood...

A few years ago at the Dome vs the Bummers Sitting amongst a few Bummer supporters on L3 in the outer Early in the game, Maxy had beaten Lloydy to the 1st few contests and Lloydy looked out of sorts Promptly I called out 'Lloydy your useless! Maxy will have you any day!' One bummer supporter turned ...

Thank God cw..... finally a poster that talks more sense than crap!!!

L.Fisher - Finally found form. Was excellent at ground level and used the ball well. Didn't rack up huge stats but he saved us several Adelaide goals. Disagree -thought he was ordinary! R.Clarke - Started well, but tired in the second half and made a couple of poor mistakes. He wasn't nearly as bad ...

I hope so. He deserves another year IMO.

He did not nominate for the draft!

Yep, my memory is a little hazy but I only recall Tuck being out for period of time on one occasion.
P.S. I was at the club in 1983 under Des Meaher and Ray Biffin.

Banger needs 20 games in 2008 to become the 3rd highest number of games played at 379 over an amazing 20 years. It's interesting to note though that Tuck played 426 games over 19 years. How many games would Harves have played if he played for say a Hawthorn or Essendon and played in regular finals??...