It is not an either/or position. We lack high-end talent, and skills across the board are substandard. However, that does not mean that the coaching is not also to blame. We have a coach who is completely opposed to attacking, he does not try to win the game. Ross coach's to breakdown the oppositio...

Match thread discussion Tip out Bonner - bring in Henry :shock: :oops: Yep good one Bonner 30 disp 81% TOG 87% DE Henry 4 disp 82% TOG I’d take Henry over Bonner anyway Anyone with half a brain knows that Bonner under pressure crumbles We saw that against ESS ….17 clangers ??? Highest by a player s...

People whingeing we kicked 7 goals are simpletons We kicked 1.5 in Q3 from 16 entries you turkeys ….we kick 6 and that score line looks a whole lot different!! To suggest we are kicking low scores because Lyons game plan is forcing them too is sheer stupidity We HAD chances We **** em!! How hard is ...

Whether the game plan is right or wrong doesn’t explain dropped marks, fumbles, missed tackles, mis-kicks, poor accuracy. Too many players not up to it. Thank you This “game plan is crap” is just a puff piece for weak minded apologists letting sone of their “heroes” off the hook So so many fumbles ...

I am a Ross Lyon fan. The best coach to coach St Kilda in my memory. That said, he needs to own how we are playing in terms of attacking and hitting the scoreboard. Put the acid on a insipid midfield and dysfunctional forward half. Those are factors he can identify as requiring improvement, he simp...

The fumbling from the start of the game was an indication how things were going to turn out. A lack of assertiveness was there for all to see. That's the killer. We did not look like we had any intention of imposing ourselves in the game. No aggression towards our opponents, no confident attack on ...

samoht wrote: ↑Sat 11 May 2024 6:22pm Melt down or pointing out some home truths?

Or just pointing out rubbish and excuses for players everywhere??
Soft.

The pies were obviously having a run of poor form after winning the flag ... with a reduced pre-season following their extended flag-winning season, Teflon. How do you on the other hand explain the hot and cold form of our players? Our players were obviously good enough to beat the pies! You can't ...

cwrcyn wrote: ↑Sat 11 May 2024 5:59pm Teflon, I agree on Ross and Membrey. They're nearly done. Ross plays one solid game and then follows up with a couple of stinkers. Membrey seems to have lost some zip, but playing in that forward line at the moment would be a misery

Agree re entry to forward half but Membrey /Ross are done

Honest to god Teflon, there must be something else you can do with yourself this evening. And let your dribble reign supreme? Who’d want to miss that opportunity! Time to give yourself an uppercut and stop your obsession with me …it’s kinda Baby Reindeer-ish… Get help At least I’m salvageable…..you??

Mitch Owens Mare of a game!!! Jesus man … imagine playing high h/f in front of that dogshit midfield and half back group. Owens and Mataes are slaughtered playing there Agree but geez that midfield is woeful 2nd to the ball No outside run Only Marshall dump kicks forwards… Worst in league by mile F...

samoht wrote: ↑Sat 11 May 2024 5:46pm Sicily's 46 and Martin's 44 possessions off half back was the player's fault too ... it can't be the genius game plan.

What was the game plan issue against the Pies?
We are all ears genius do tell ??

meher baba wrote: ↑Sat 11 May 2024 5:45pm Honest to god Teflon, there must be something else you can do with yourself this evening.

And let your dribble reign supreme?
Who’d want to miss that opportunity!
Time to give yourself an uppercut and stop your obsession with me …it’s kinda Baby Reindeer-ish…

Waltzing St Kilda wrote: ↑Sat 11 May 2024 5:42pm Cuddly Ross has failed.

Ross the **** needs to take over immediately.

Hard to pull your socks up when you don’t have any on

samoht wrote: ↑Sat 11 May 2024 5:43pm You and I could have coached that side to a premiership, Teflon.

Yep sure champ all RTB fault
Keep letting your weak, gutless players off …that’s the Saints way

So many players just didn't look switched on. Flat footed, tentative, waiting for things to happen. No on field leadership. Steele is a good player but fails in that area. The problem being is that he is indecisive with ball in hand, and he's the one who should be leading the way in the style of pl...

samoht wrote: ↑Sat 11 May 2024 5:38pm I was obviously referring to the first Lyon stint, Shrodes.

Oh you mean the one after multiple GF appearances??
You’re looking desperate now

Devilhead wrote: ↑Sat 11 May 2024 5:24pm They hunted the ball and wanted it more

Enough with the 18yo experiment

Time to play our best team

I think that’s papering over cracks
Zac Jones should be delisted end season
Play kids - get draft picks

Coaches did well today Swung battle forward , Wood forward, Payton into middle all good moves We have the weakest , dumbest players in the comp THE worst midfield- nit by a little but a long way 12 years of recruiting HBF/HFF crap like Billing’s and co has set us back 10 years RTB set us back 5 yea...

FFS tank play kids for future How do you know it is not what we are doing????? I’m sure it is - it’s why I’m not interested in the blame coach shyte He knows he doesn’t have the cattle, certainly doesn’t have the midfield Just tank ffs get the pick We have no star academy concessions we have no fat...

Yes Marshall hacked the ball out of stoppages and none of our players upfield thought to play in front of their opponents. I mean...it's not bloody hard to figure out. They know Marshall does it, but they still sit back on their damn heels and let the defenders run on the ball!!! Exactly but appare...

Coaches did well today Swung battle forward , Wood forward, Payton into middle all good moves We have the weakest , dumbest players in the comp THE worst midfield- nit by a little but a long way 12 years of recruiting HBF/HFF crap like Billing’s and co has set us back 10 years RTB set us back 5 yea...

BTW, Battle up forward wasn't good. It was a desperate move. Battle is a really good player, but is at his best down back. As is Sinclair. Do any of you remember Alan Richardson's tendency to move Carlisle forward when things got desperate? That's the sort of situation we were in this afternoon. Ro...

Coaches did well today Swung battle forward , Wood forward, Payton into middle all good moves We have the weakest , dumbest players in the comp THE worst midfield- nit by a little but a long way 12 years of recruiting HBF/HFF crap like Billing’s and co has set us back 10 years Sorry, mate. This sor...

Coaches did well today Not sure if I agree. Lacking in imagination and flair. Battle up forward was good. But the overall setup was horrible. Something needs to change. What were your moves?? How do you coach missed set shots?? 18 inside 50s q3 for 1.5????? WTF does coaching do about that ???