Agree to disagree then. My definition of courage is not of a purely physical nature but more of a never say die attitude e.g LENNY/bj'S 2HD HALF PERFORMANCES IN gf1 2010

Not knocking the bloke,just quoting perceptions of his contemporaries and my own disappointment in 97 GF performance(know the mitigating circumstances)

Didn't say he dogged it,more that he iced games rather than turned them around.

There was aview amongst opposition defenders and some high profile Saints team mates that a clip behind the ear early in the game was all it took to put Stewie off his game!

BigMart wrote:Loewe, barker, winmar, voss, blake, hudghton, maguire, burke, jones, voss, baker, koschitzke....

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No Luke Ball? Not sure Loewe fits in that company either.

Ball in our court. Not going to go far in finals if we can't beat North and Swans in Sydney!

Geary may lack skill but shows heart and commitment.Hopefully gets some games in continuity so he can be judged fairly.

you obviously know Gordon too? Felt quite entitled to Plugger's spot once the big fella moved on, great bloke but I.Q similar to Gilbert!

Trying to boost trade value maybe?

Always been said that our bottom six weren't much good,this year our top six collectively have had lesser output meaning the mid tier players have come on or we would be below Port Adalaide.Maybe all is not lost yet.

Careful there,somr people at the club are above criticism. Keep that up and you nwill be labelled a troll!

Dont worry about the bit players, can anybody tell me if the captain has seen a psych recently, if nit why not?

Were the commentators a bit harsh or did Raph really dog it?

Sun will still rise tomorrow, and we will all get over it by about Wednesday and reload for next week!

A better captain may have taken himself off as he quite clearly not in any shape to perform.I know he has plenty of credits in the bank but surely they are close to running out.If you cfhose to go on/stay on the field you have to be judged as if fit.

Reminded me of that finasl against Melbourne just gefore GT was sacked.

Do you really want to play finals in this kind of form?

May well be right.Maybe Ross Lyon's game plan is based more on robotic adherence to structure's than Malthouse's.In my opinion Ball,Kozi and NDS (prior to this season) have/had never performed to their GT standards with RL.Was it them or their ability to adapt to his gameplan?On the flip side his ga...

Rumour during off season that Dal had 3rd party deal with Bill Gates (apparently his company named after Dal)

If poor disposal is his only fault he's in pretty good company (12)

Reckon Thomas is maybe more of a St.K tragic than some of us on here,have not ever heard him say the slightest negative thing about Lyon,so he doesn't rate Milney . Surely he is entitled to an opinion!

Milney reminds me of Stewie Loewe in that they both put the icing on the cake of already won games rather than turning games on their head(Plugger) great players just the same, and Milney's game has evolved over last few years, I actually quite enjoy some of his brief midfield spells!

As much as I enjoy most of Milneys exploits and with all due respect to his goalkicking tally, I would find it extremely difficult to put him in a TOTC ahead of all the great resting rovers over the years or indeed ahead of Billy Young(given that FF is already spoken for).

Don't want to open old wounds but if you apply that theory to selections/moves in 09 Granny there may be 2 flags worth of regret!

Only one thing I don't get:How can a bloke be bad enough to delist when 3 weeks earlier he was good enough to play in GF2 whilst significantly injured?