Lennon wrote: Unless you're a troll, which I dare say you are.

If raising concerns about the mental fragility of some of our own constitutes trolling, well, who's that clip-clopping over my bridge? HOwever not all of us view the world through rose-coloured glasses. And that's where I figure I come in.

Brilliant post... I too let myself believe at the time BJ took that mark and put it through that we would win... I felt that it had all had come to this, and that the mark would replace Barry Breens point as the image that IS St.Kilda Premierships... It wasn't to be... And it now seems further away...

Thanks for that Saintbrat. I thought there was a space maybe in the veteran area last season. Obviously wrong. if you have more3 veterans you have less rookies total still needs to be 38 core list +6 we had 38 with Lenny Inside List + 6 rookies you can only have ( I can be corrected) as many as 3 v...

I came home two weeks ago and deleted the entire finals series off my Foxtel. I got rid of the home and away games too. The Geelong game from the G that wet and windy Friday night, the Hawthorn draw aswell. Why keep them, I thought. I could still hear the echo of the Collingwood theme song in my mi...

What gap? The Grand Final was a draw. The replay was a better reflection of where the two sides were at by the end of the year. Why? If Lenny's kick had bounced through or into Milne's hands and we'd hung on to win would you have posted here that we were not worthy winners? The draw was a fluke. Th...

when there's fair evidence to suggest that we're not good enough. This is where I disagree. I can see the ponit that our form against Collingwood is below par but for my money it's about our game plan against them. Our forwardline was just too slow, predictable and the delivery in fairness was crap...

3rd generation saint wrote:If Jolly goes down next year, the filth will struggle big time as they don't have any replacement ruckmen.

Yep, definitely the most important pies player in terms of replaceability.

Not joining next year and I am changing my AFL membership to Pies support. i am very upset with this club. BJ should be Captain. Max should have played in the 2009 GF. No open training sessions. Moving to Seaford and also giving in on away jumpers. The club is a joke. Time to move on. Na obviously ...

theres no love in footy someone is a heartbreak story its the way it is And the someone is us this year.. Using your theory the Pies should have stuffed their chances with their shoddy treatment of club legends Fraser & Presti. I mean, those players bled for the club but were overlooked for guy...

kosifantutti23 wrote:What gap?

The Grand Final was a draw.

The replay was a better reflection of where the two sides were at by the end of the year.

matrix wrote:theres no love in footy

someone is a heartbreak story

its the way it is

And the someone is us this year..

rodgerfox wrote:He's a drunk.

He's overweight, and mentally fragile.

And he's the epitome of the phrase "serial finals failure."

Why would I want to watch that? We (Ross) made two mistakes in the '09 GF: Luke Ball and Max Hudghton. Cost us a flag in my opinion. They say "there's no room for sentimentality in football." I disagree. The sentimental choice of playing Max, a man who bled and cried for us, in that game ...

Moccha wrote:

Brisvegas saint wrote:Why would you link to that? He's a bloody filth premiership player now, he's had the last laugh.

Don't you see the irony. Loyalty is a two way street

You reckon he would have taken the decision to leave lightly?

He has been 100% vindicated.

Yes.

We have been very unlucky over the last few years. Will really need that to turn around now.

Yeah, but who should we have traded for? How do we know they could be traded for? What would they have cost us? It's all very well to say we didn't do anything in the trade period however picking up some fringe players isn't going to help us bridge whatever gap it is we need to bridge. I'm just con...

Why would you link to that? He's a bloody filth premiership player now, he's had the last laugh.

Krakouer has been on Collingwood's radar since June and has been speaking to them since. Whether he makes it is another chapter. Derek Hine made the final call on Krak and hasn't made many bad calls so I guess they trust what they see. Having read through some of the archives, how is this troll sti...

I've been to every St Kilda G.F. since 1965, except one, 1966. If we make it next year, and I dont attend, I reckon we win a flag. If we make it next year, and you stay away, and we win it, your sacrifice will be appreciated by all. Take one for the team ST. :wink: Can I say, don't. Be selfish, go ...

IMO we can be as good if not better than Collingwood and with our younger players pushing from under it will happen. I agree. I'm looking forward to it. Many outside the club think we've had our chance, blown it and will now slip down the ladder. That's the perception. I can't wait for us ... equip...

We may have seen the last G.F draw in AFL. Well at least we were involved in that piece of history. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/grand-final-replay-rule-review/story-e6frf9jf-1225939587774 Na they won't change it, it helped their precious pies win a flag. If the result was the other way ro...

Rooey is an absolutely fine captain if not one of the best in the competition. It's not the captain we need to change to win a GF but some of the players (Kosi, Dempster, Eddy, McWalter etc) needing to step up on the big stage. But Roo quite clearly has failed to step up. And if the captain can't s...

IMO we can be as good if not better than Collingwood and with our younger players pushing from under it will happen. I agree. I'm looking forward to it. Many outside the club think we've had our chance, blown it and will now slip down the ladder. That's the perception. I can't wait for us ... equip...

Hey as Plugger suggests, I reckon Lloydy could still do a job.

Rooey is an absolutely fine captain if not one of the best in the competition. It's not the captain we need to change to win a GF but some of the players (Kosi, Dempster, Eddy, McWalter etc) needing to step up on the big stage. But Roo quite clearly has failed to step up. And if the captain can't s...