SaintsRrising wrote:"The Suns wisely made their first appointment their recruiting manager"

Spot on and the bloke they appointed came second last on the above table.
The table that has Melbourne coming first.

7. Get our own reserves team. With out doubt that is number one. Then employ top development coaches. Get off Sandringham is the next move. Play at a decent size ground and watch how many players that are drafted become good AFL players. Simple really but i honestly believe no one at the club reali...

Of the last 13 premiers only Essendon (2000), West Coast (2006) and Hawthorn (2008) have not had their own team in the state league. There is your answer. Essendon now have their own reserves team, Hawthorn seem to have a very good relationship with Box Hill...They even got them to change from the ...

He may of played many debutantes in his final year but when we were a very good side he didnt blood enough. Perhaps they weren't good enough. Armo and Big boy could of had some more games against the lower sides to fast track them King and Gards didnt have to play together each week Nobody does it ...

I have read all the negatives about Ledger. No vision. Rushes his kicks etc. but why not give him a go now? Gets the hard ball. Wins a lot of possessions and can kick goals. Gets clearances. Haven't we seen enough of Milera? Let's you down when the pressure is on. Ledger may not be good enough but l...

We should get a time machine going. I would be the greatest recruiter ever. Who has a spare flux capacitor and a De Lorean sitting around. Gee you're no fun. If you are going to take a logical and realistic approach, where does that leave us armchair experts? Everyone knows the 08 draft was crap. T...

Hannebury ouch.... But the big one was Trengrove? He should have been selected, slid too far, for no reason... B&F already Zaharakis also has a B&F (2011). Beams another one - top ten in the Brownlow last year. Did Dangerfield win Adelaide's B&F? If he didn't win it I think he was runne...

10 goals is 10 goals... I like Lynch and would've preferred to keep him... He wanted to go, and good on him for taking his chance... Thought he was treated fairly poorly during his years as a Saint... His debut game getting thrown to the wolves was a terrible initiation... Poor player management by...

10 goals is 10 goals... I like Lynch and would've preferred to keep him... He wanted to go, and good on him for taking his chance... Thought he was treated fairly poorly during his years as a Saint... His debut game getting thrown to the wolves was a terrible initiation... Poor player management by...

No issue with Lynch leaving isnt much chop to be honest. Big call!! You may well be right but he was continually in the best players at Sandy. Plays well in the SANFL, now has kicked ten goals in an AFL game. If Tom Lee kicks ten in the VFL we will all be hailing him as a ready made AFL player. Mat...

"And back then you could only tke one 17 year old. Most were leaving them for the later picks." That rule was removed by 2007. If it was still in then someone should report WCE to the AFL. They selected Brad Ebert, Tony Notte and Scott Selwood in 2007. All of them are 1990 births. That mea...

Pick 42 it was. Must have been lucky guess with that one because as we know, until now, we just couldn't pick them!!!

Question, Who picked Jack at 42? Was that Bevo?

That's my point. People are complaining about 08 draft. We, amongst the mistakes selected, Simpkin, Dawson and Stanley. 09 poor but it was only one year.

2008: Anthony Corrie, Jarrod Blight, Luke Rounds, Leigh Brown, Tristan Francis, Johnny Bennell, Toby Thoolen & Scott Reed 2009: Simon Buckley, Tom Hunter, Jack Carter & Shae McNamara off the list 2010: Daniel Farmer, Kirk Ugle, Trent Stubbs, Tom Young, Tom Gordon, Declan Reilly, Jack Perham ...

Just for the record, the disasters of '08 are, Stanley, Simpkin and Dawson (who were both rookied in season 08) and Ray traded. In the AFL record it will have 09 rookie draft as this years rookie draft is '13. To illustrate the point Dawson played in the 09 Grand Final. So, I have a point of differe...

These two trades get a lot of stick when the dooms dayers are on their rants about our trading and drafting. What most people choose to ignore as both players where huge talents and sort after young key position footballers. No one could of imagined the shocking injuries that basically ended their ...

Thank you for taking the time to responded to my question. You have clarified your viewpoint to some degree. You do make an interesting point regards assessing drafts. I must admit I have difficulty in doing that. The reason being, I don't think all picks are the same value. For example, a lot of pe...

Why would you expect anything different now. Because those in charge of our recruiting now are different from those we had for much of that time, especially the years under Peake, which look to have been a bit of a disaster. I have a question? Why do you, when supporting the new administration, hav...

:lol: You forgot to include the 2009 players. Yes very good. Like your humour but I hope the above list finally puts an end to the myth that all drafts and trades pre2011 were pathetic. 2009 shocking nothing worked out. Agree but the other drafts and trades may have been just average or not bad but...

When reviewing or assessing how well we have recruited, I think the first rule should be, have we quoted factual information? In 2008 the club drafted Stanley and rookie listed, Simpkin and Dawson. In 2010 the club drafted Siposs and Ledger and rookied Curren. Who's fault it is that a full back wal...

When reviewing or assessing how well we have recruited, I think the first rule should be, have we quoted factual information? In 2008 the club drafted Stanley and rookie listed, Simpkin and Dawson. In 2010 the club drafted Siposs and Ledger and rookied Curren. Who's fault it is that a full back walk...

Totally agree. Then that's my point , St Kilda, if you take into account were their pick have been, their drafting has not been as bad as people make out. Not perfect but against other AFL clubs, excluding Geelong, The Saints compare favourably. After all they did play in three Grand Finals.

Should have retired no. 35 for 20 years in respect, cripps has shown it none at all. I would've cast him to the draft. Picks in the forties? Pure lottery. Prefer the message sent to cripps and the eagles. Disagree. The fact that picks in the 40s are a lottery mean that you need to pick plenty up an...

I am continually amazed how people are so critical of past decisions. If everything was so bad previously then we must of had a lot of luck to play in the 09 and 010 grand finals. As for previous trade and draft decisions, yes there were mistakes. For example McEvoy why the hell do we pck me? Can on...