Surprising to see some of the figures in the paper yesterday... ASDs (Annual special dividends) Introduced in 2002... The bulldogs have collected $10.1M since 2002. The kangaroos have collected $7.2M since 2003 The Melbourne FC have collected $6M since 2004 How long can this cash cow go on for? Appa...

You have to have a Coach that fits.. I dont think Ross Lyon does.. I could add the same thing for Terry Wallace at Richmond..he doesnt fit. You have to win the players so they'll run through a brick wall for you....and all the mumbo jumbo crapolla that gets touted about what else you need is all rub...

I'd rather be a realist and see the truth than a dreamer staring into the misty choking smog at Moorabbin and see nothing but rotting relics of stands where there used to be people....noise...belief in a premiership...something somewhere down the track. Now i doubt...it will ever happen. I believe w...

you're soooo right. The team is crap and they need to accept that and start rebuilding. The president was right a few weeks ago. Roo needs to pull his head out of his arse and smell the coco. I believe he needs to step aside as captain and see if he can become a good footballer. He is at the top of...

bigred wrote:
We do not have nearly enough youth or young players to promote.

There aint much there!

Thanks to 2nd rate recruiting for too many years.

Rejects from other clubs = failure to do the hard things when they need to be done.

Have resisted accepting this for sometime but after today I honestly believe the rebuilding phase has to start from now... We have serious list deficiencys and a rookie coach who is struggling to implement an effective game plan... Hard ,unpalable decisions on at least 8 to 10 players will be made ...

Fantastic news...

It should always have been this way.

meher baba wrote:

krabb wrote:Another fact is...

He spent time at Richmond and Carlton too as an assistant Coach...

Gawd some people ramble on with some crap.

Sorry? And your point is........?

You assume a lot and actually know nothing.

Fact that one into your teamsheet.

Another fact is...

He spent time at Richmond and Carlton too as an assistant Coach...

Gawd some people ramble on with some crap.

Dan Warna wrote:
failure of the st kilda coaching NOT a failure of the st kilda talent spotting.

Well if we failed..add Port to that list also.

He was undsiciplined and lazy..

Clarkson's got through to him...or he's grown up...it happens.

I hear you as well. I am trying to be as immotive as possible, years of following our side can have that effect On this we are definitely on the same page! :wink: I wonder about the applicants that didnt get the Coaching job...who knows the one we desperately needed could've been in there somewhere...

If players arent playing for the Coach then i seriously think thats more a slur on their character than his. With all due respect Krabb I think you are underestimating the value of coaches to be able to motivate. Yeah i hear you fireman...i know we need a Coach that the players would run through a ...

The current players do not respond to him. We need to cross our fingers and hope that young guys coming into the club might. What choice is there? We've been hamstrung horribly by severe mismanagement and imcompetence. Bingo...give this poster a prize. It goes way back to the old board and GT and a...

I was watching Dal Santo when he kicked that brilliant goal from the wing in the last quarter agains Brisbane... He watched in amazement when it went through...it was hilarious to see the look on his face... Yep Dal you actually can do it. They dont believe in themselves..they dont take the chances....

So we got the ones who will not do the work but Geelong, Hawthorn, Bulldogs, Adelaide, Pies and Roos got the ones who will do the work. It isnt that simple maybe it is the culture of the club. Or maybe most of the players arent good enough. The problem lies with two entirely different Coaches...one...

It starts in the U/18's and goes on from there..

Treated like Rock Stars...earn the big money...adored by fans...but only few like to do the hard work.

Fair dinkum they all need a kick up the rear end.

Footballers dont lose skills...kids under 10's know how to kick a goal and tackle. If he's taught them defensive football and all they know is attacking football then surely....surely how hard can it be to combine the two? Aussie Jones was giving his opinion on radio...still No proof that Ross Lyon ...

Behind Play wrote: Enter Ross Lyon...

He's a man's man...no bonding with this guy...tough and straight to the point.

I can assure you he is far from tough with the players.

Prove it...give me an example.

How do you know Ross Lyon has lost his way? Could it be as simple as.... Under Grant Thomas they were moddycoddled and under Ross Lyon they need to grow up and think for themselves? Grant Thomas was a father figure to most of the boys..from all reports they had free access to come and go at his hous...

He would be the first one on my trade list.

Selfish..doesnt work hard enough..and the one with the most value for us to get a good trade.

Hiya Rog :wink: Yeah...take the emotion out of it..and they're a rabble.. I vote for the Gold Coast...ensures our future... We'll be filthy rich... Have to buy new cabintes for all the premierships.. We get an armchair ride from the AFL... Pick the eyes out of the draft.. I mean....whats to lose?

I know who's not soft...and thats Brown and Bradshaw.

We were never going to win up there yesterday...anyone that thought we would has got rocks in their heads.

barks4eva wrote:
and what do you base this on?

I remember his mess handling the Moorabbin Council fiasco...some things just stay in your mind.

Feel free to idolise the guy...

Not an Archie fan...never was...IMO since this guy's arrival at our Club..the mess gets messier.

I reckon he's a deadset d1ckhead.

Posters waffle on in here just to feed their own ego's...lets be honest nobody in here has a clue what the club needs to do to fix whats wrong. Why cant the club be adventurous for once? Why cant they chuck the kids in just to see what happens? Why do we top up with rejects from other clubs? Its a s...