Gresham was an X factor player who could do the occasional spectacular thing maybe Henry is the replacement for that.
However, he was an absolute ball butcher and that we have replaced with Paddy Dow who also has the elite disposal skills of a drunken baboon.

Gresham vs Henry - little difference. Henry quicker both truly appalling kicks of the football. Billings vs Dow - Billings at his best is better than Dow but as Billings has been injured probably ahead with Dow. Coffield vs Draft pick - Injury impacted but when fit a top 10 player at the club vs a p...

Dylan Hannebery, welcome to the Saints, our latest superannuant. Well, at least he doesn’t come with a penchant for the nose beers, like old mate Hanners did lol Shiel is an outstanding citizen, and if I remember correctly is engaged to the daughter of Choco Williams. If surgery is keyhole meniscus...

I think this is a positive move if we can get him for a third rounder.
Any more than that and it would be a pass in my opinion.

Ross rates effort over talent Byrnes is a power runner - honestly he runs around like a headless chook sometimes. Byrnes will NEVER be as good as Billings Phillipou will be but right now is not any near it Bizarre but no surprising I agree with this 100%. Ross couldn't care less if you couldn't hit...

In all the gnashing of teeth over the probability of losing Billings, I haven't seen anybody explain coherently why he appears to be out of favour with the coaching panel? It cannot just be Lyon It has to also be Hayes, Harvey, Enright Goddard plus anybody else involved in the coaching/selection. I...

What makes people think that Sinclair is q game winning mid? He played in the midfield for years and became an A grader when shifted to HB. Leave him there.

If the deal is just a 2nd round pick swap and they keeping Shield salary then fine. However, there is no incentive for Essendon to do that.
The only way this makes any sense for both parties is if we keep the Gresham compo and get Shiel and his salary for a third rounder.

Ths is the craziest trade proposal ive ever heard.. No way on earth would we give up Gresh AND pick 13 for Shiel. Surely they give us an extra pick if anything. Andwhay do we care what compo pick we get if we just giving it back anyway, as if Essendon complain whatever pick it was.. And then we als...

I actually would like Collingwood to win. I have never had a problem with the club, I don't have the hatred for them that I do for Carlton, Essendon or Geelong. Their supporters have a record of being a bit uncultured perhaps but the majority are good natured with a bit of a fatalistic streak somewh...

If we give a pick around 13 for just Shiel then Ross and Silvagni need to be fired on the spot. That would be one of the most ridiculous trade deals ever. Ross does have a history of trading that screws over the Saints so I wouldn't put it past him. He was the man behind the rank stupidity that trad...

I am not being pessimistic but everyone acknowledges we lack top end talent to really compete with the top 4 sides. The problem is we are not and never have been a destination club which means we either have to pay over the odds to bring players in compared to Collingwood, Richmond, Geelong etc... o...

I am not woe is me at all. I enjoyed going to the football this year and I will enjoy next year not because I expect us to perform well because I simply don't. We are a mid table team and that is where we are destined to stay because we have no access to the talent we need to improve. It is just foo...

If we give up a FRDP for Shiel then Bassett should start firing the coaching and recruitment team. We should see if the cats would take pick 12 for Hawkins another key forward would be handy.

We are in the worst place a poor club with no recruiting power can be. We have access to top end talent and have no way to bring it in unless we are willing to pay way over the top. We play a style of football that at times has bordered on the unwatchable. We have a coach with a proven record if he ...

That is completely correct.
If we are trying for pick 13 or even a pick at the end of the first round for Gresham then Jordan is off the table.

The Bowes deal only impacted the two clubs involved in the deal. This will push all other clubs picks after our first pick another position down. They are very different scenarios. I think the AFL would have no issue with us getting Shiels for Essendon to do a salary dump. It is the artificial valua...

If what people saying the deal is the AFL will never approve it. Artificially inflating a players worth to secure a higher draft compensation. If we were Brisbane, Sydney or Collingwood they would probably allow it but a trade that gives St Kilda a boost at the expense of GWS, brisbane, Collingwood ...

I don't understand why would Essendon do that deal it makes no sense unless they have a cap squeeze. It is being reported that they have about $2M free in the cap. They can get Gresham and McKay and keep Shiel for another couple of years and still not have an issue with their cap.

Unless the deal is we don't get his salary because Essendon supposedly have a lot of room in their cap.
So if the deal was we get Shiel for Gresham and room in our cap it might make sense.

I don't agree with it as I think Shiel is not the player we want or need.

Dow I think improves us as he has the ball winning capabilities very similar to Crouch and Seb but with more pace than either. He is a bit of a ball butcher though. He is though a clearance player which is an area where we struggle. Henry I personally just don't see the value, outside runner with pa...

I just looked up the trade and we got 3 picks 5,13, and 48 and a handful of nothing players. That brought us Joel Smith who was a great player that we screwed over and Aussie Jones and we wasted pick 13. We were not screwed in the deal as Plugger only played another 98 games and we got two 200 game...

I just looked up the trade and we got 3 picks 5,13, and 48 and a handful of nothing players. That brought us Joel Smith who was a great player that we screwed over and Aussie Jones and we wasted pick 13. We were not screwed in the deal as Plugger only played another 98 games and we got two 200 game...

I just looked up the trade and we got 3 picks 5,13, and 48 and a handful of nothing players. That brought us Joel Smith who was a great player that we screwed over and Aussie Jones and we wasted pick 13. We were not screwed in the deal as Plugger only played another 98 games and we got two 200 gamer...

I just looked up the trade and we got 3 picks 5,13, and 48 and a handful of nothing players. That brought us Joel Smith who was a great player that we screwed over and Aussie Jones and we wasted pick 13. We were not screwed in the deal as Plugger only played another 98 games and we got two 200 gamer...