The classic recent tall forward/ruck who was "built like Tarzan, played like Jane" and changed late in his career into a solid aggressive player was Leigh Brown. 2010 Collingwood premiership player. In his earlier career at North, he avoided body contact, didn't put his head over the ball ...

Agree.
Savage gave up lots of goals. He is very easily pushed off contested ball situations and marking contests. Missed tackles too. At least 2 resulted in goals. Gave up at least one dumb free kick for a goal too.
He looked exhausted in the last quarter. Is he fit enough?
Terrible game!

I saw him train with the Saints. His upper body was small and he had big hips. Didn't look like a footballer. Also pulled a hammy while training and looked pretty disheartened. Didnt really get a chance to show his stuff. Understandable why he wasn't picked up.

My Wife and I stopped being members as with small kids we have no games at 2.10 to go to. They are too small for evening and twilight games.

More 2.10 Melbourne based games please. Saturday or Sunday.

We would be members still if the fixture had 5 or 6 games we could attend.

Radio said he hurt himself training before the game. Did they train on Friday up there?

Both these guys have deficiencies in their games that hold them back from being A graders. As stated, both are not in the top 50 midfielders in the league. I am sure they are working on the limiting factors. Of note; I have watched a few games from last season and Steven was used as a tagger a coupl...

Anyone go to training? Any news?

We have a FB and his name is Tom Simpkin. He is in his 3rd year of senior footy next year and his improvement from year one to two was huge. He will continue to improve and if he does at the rate he has so far he will hold down FB on all but 3 or 4 players in the AFl When we play the teams that hav...

I can see how many posters want to see Lee as a forward. He looks exciting and could work really well as the 3rd tall working alongside Riewoldt. The issue the team has is there a lots of tall forwards and all can't play at the same time. Our forward line last year did OK. We need someone to play ta...

Hickey at his draft camp came second in the clean hands exercise, top 10 in 3km time trial (along with Jack Newnes) and the highest ranked tall in the agility test. So one would assume he has good hands, great endurance and agility. Listed as 96kg so unlikely to be pushed around too. All he has to d...

A lot on here think Stanley is a FB option and all I am saying is that Hickey has a better skill set than Stanley to do the job.

I have been reading lots of posts about our lack of a tall defender. Stanley has been put forward as an option. I think he doesn't have the strength to lower his centre of gravity and hold his position in a marking contest. Basically, he is pushed out of position too easily. Hickey is quick, can hol...

My take on 2013 team is made up of the oldest 21 on the list. I figure the players 23 and over are on the list for a reason. They would not be there if they weren't going to play. They all have mens bodies are are ready to play. I think that is too simplistic. For starters, CJ, Blake and Kosi were ...

We have really miss him. Dawson was quick, made heaps of spoils, lots of pressure acts... With the ball was a bit shaky (clangers) and missed a tackle or 2 occasionally. Overall, would love him back at the Saints. We have no replacement. Overall I'd hate Dawson to be back at the Saints - I'd love h...

We have really miss him.
Dawson was quick, made heaps of spoils, lots of pressure acts... With the ball was a bit shaky (clangers) and missed a tackle or 2 occasionally. Overall, would love him back at the Saints. We have no replacement.

My take on 2013 team is made up of the oldest 21 on the list. I figure the players 23 and over are on the list for a reason. They would not be there if they weren't going to play. They all have mens bodies are are ready to play. After losing Goddard from our top 5 players and Gram and Cripps from ou...

Getting the license to build Crown from his buddy Kennett was dodgy.. Flying in Asian 'colourful business identities' to gamble was and is dodgy.. The racing industry is dodgy.. Really funny is the ads for an online gaming company with a fresh faced young man fronting, saying his rich family history...

Some on Bigfooty have said he is slow but his sprint time at the testing disproves that and should bring him up the draft order. Can't say for sure but he should last till our picks in the 40's. I still think a mature full back should also be picked up. Picks in the 20's for mids and the 40's for ta...

Found this on BIGFOOTY. Quigley wrote it and thought he should be drafted at 22 in 2009. He is usually a good judge of talent. Maybe he has just had injuries at Sydney. PICK 22 – WEST COAST Even if the Eagles take Jetta in the first round I still think they will look to take a small forward option h...

15 disposals and 21 hitouts a game suggest he played ruck rather than key position mostly. 20 tackles for the year isn't a lot though. Looks quick in highlights package.

Just did some research and Lee played well in defence in 2011 apparently. CHB rather than FB. Played some games in the ruck changing forward too. He is 94kg so only Cloke would push him around. Cloke is huge so would push around Mitch Brown too. Over summer he could put on a few kg's. Anyway, not ma...

Has anyone actually seen Lee play as a defender? How was he defencively? I don't want hearsay. Has anyone even seen TV footage other than the highlights package? He held his spot in the WAFL team for a while before being moved forward so can't be too bad. He can move forward later when needed but c...

Been OS for a month so missed a lot of trading info. A few comments and questions... Has anyone seen Lee play in defence? He has played many games there in W.A. so could solve our defence issue. Stuff West Coast and look at Mitch Brown next year when he is out of contract. Martin from Melbourne can ...

My Wife and I quit being members because we have 2 kids under 4 and can't do twilight or night games. With only 2 afternoon games just no value. I work Saturday nights sometimes too. Next year we should be able to do twilight games with the eldest so will probably be members again.

No no no. Not good enough.