Of course the great former Saint captain, and 1980 all-australian Bruce "Super Duper"ouzel was a Sandgroper

GWS would have no interest in our 2nd rounder.. they would not even use it.. that is why this is a clever trade IMO, because GWS dont really want their 2nd or 3rd rounders, so Pelchin saw an opportunity to get both of them.... creating win-win situations is good practice... we will need those later ...

that's making the assumption that a pick 12 is worth 2 second round draft picks and a third round No it is not. It is making the assumption that pick 12 is worth tom Lee + a second round draft pick + a 3rd round draft pick. there is a big difference between trading a general 2nd rounder, where the ...

Exactly. Sam Fisher wasn't setting the world on fire at 21...he's a gun now. Not everyone is ready to go at 17/18/19. yes.. and key forwards rarely make their mark until their 20s. look at Fevola.. at age 21 (same as Lee this year) he played 9 and kicked 13 Lee has a trajectory that is quite normal...

Cripps + Second Round Draft Pick is fair I respectfuly disagree Cripps OR 2nd rounder.. and not the 24 we gort ftom GWS, our original 2nd rounder. Players over 23 years of age and NOT in their teams best 22 are simply not worth much in trading week. The fact is, he is not in their team. He simply c...

It is laughable to suggest that a fit Kossi will be displaced by Lee.

Well, I am 100% sure he will be.
But this is one for the vault. Time will tell, and someone can say 'I told you so' at some point in the season

yes, no way we should use 13. or even 24. I dont think we will. We will have plan B and if WC dont give a reasonable trade we should walk away. The fact is 50 games in 6 years and only a few in 2012 as a 23 year old is just not worth more than our pick 34, going on history of such trades... older pl...

How has he grown 3cm after 20yo??

who knows, but it is a huge positive.... means he was super raw at Adelaide...

And there is no doubt about the 194cm listing as he was at Draft camp last week and the measurement would be 'mm perfect"

If the AFL had have settled FA BEFORE trading began, or at least told the saints what they would get, could have got Lee+24+43 for 13 instead of 12??
We will never know...

just a flawed system

If we get Hickey, it is time for Kosi to retire.... Behind Roo, Stanley, Lee, Wilkes for KPF and behind Mcevoy, Hickey Stanley for Ruck duties

We need to see what happens to pick 24, before we are uup in arms about trading pick 12 for lee...
Because it is really pick 12 for Lee + Brown, or Lee + Jacobs or Lee + Hickey
+ whoever we get for 43

then, we can assess (although it may take 5 years to assess!!)

Suggests Cale Morton... have not seen this kid, but just seems to reek of Aaron Fiora #2.
Skinny outside mid with good skills who was good in underage but seems not up to it.

So if Melbourne loses three players, each is an avg player who is on $250k, the net result is $750k and a pick after their first pick, meaning they've been given pick 5? Either the arguement is flawed or the system is... No it may mean 3 teir 3 players, so three 3rd round picks But anyway, that sug...

try for Gysberts IMO.
It depends what they have lined up with picks though.. Do we want Martin + Hickey? Can Martin play down back?
Can 27 be used for Ben Jacobs??? I guess it is not enough?

Curren. Just chuck him in the team. He will play for the next 10 years, IMO

It shows that the Swans were well below their salary cap this year and they got the premiership fair and square... ie the extra room they have was not crucial in 2012... look at their good players in the GF: goodes: selection 43 okeef: selection 56 Daniel Hannebery: selection 30 Malceski selection 6...

Melbourne will just bury themselves deepeer in the sh%t if they make bad trades that no other club would make. 4 for Dawes + Wellingham is a bad trade. Maybe 13/14 for the two or 2nd rounder for either, but 4??????? No way. Byrnes is simply a AFL fringe player. That is all he is. btw, we should go h...

Melbourne and Essendon could also end up with first round picks? Clearly Essendon will not get a first round compo pick. They got goddard, so he counts against however they lose.. they will get nothing. Melbourne will also have Sahnnon Byrne count against whoever they lose... so they will get nothi...

f player moving clubs has signed a contract receiving "on average" over 700,000 a year - then Teir 1 compensation - 1st Round draft pick (one after your 1st pick) Between 500,000 and 699,999 - then Teir 2 compensation - end of 1st Round draft pick Between 300,000 and 499,999 - then Teir 3...

Full back in the SANFL team of the year, so of course they will look at some videos of him form this season.... They will then make an informed decsion on him. WHy do I think this? Because they are professionals and they will be looking at all available full backs. I have not seen those videos so ha...

This bull%^&t with the AFL not telling us the Goddard compensation until half way through the trade period, is a disgrace. 1. They should have told us as soon as he was offered a contract at Essendon. Why? Because then we could make an INFORMED decision on whether to keep him. Maybe if they said...

Curren played half the season as a 19 year old
How many 19/20 year olds won club best and fairests in the VFL/WAFL/SANFL ?
Not that many I would think, and any that do will get drafted

Could see him playing 22 games next year, taking Jones' spot....

If it is true that he is 192cm.. Full Forward Great kick for goal, knows how to time leads, the best FFs are those that can mark but can also win the ball on the ground I recon he could be a beauty up there... But... time will tell.. I just hope he develops again next year, because he looks like he ...

Age is also a factor that the AFL use in their formula, so Goddard is below Scully in that regard There is no precedent and no one knows their formula, so there is nothing to go on except a sence of what seems right.. And 13 seems right, one would think... Chaplin would be second round, I would imag...

If Stringer is available, he looks too good an opportunity to pass up.... people like Selwwod and judd were considered no. 1 until injuries, and in hindsight they should have been no. 1 despite injuries Stringer seems likely the same type... getting a pavlich type is simply invaluable and too good a...