Player numbers (extract from coaches notes)
1. Get ball

2. use ball
(fine print)
2a by foot (see 2c)
2b by hand (see 2c)
2c bugger, user error, loop back to 1

3. score goals (redundancy feature in case 2c affected by random chance)

Its often the fine print that causes problems.

rogerfox, your question (?) about the problem unnerves me, somewhat like the theme from jaws. Isn't the problem that the current operational team can't win games, that the coaches, recruiters and a number of players are not up to standard, which has obvious consequences. Are we under a curse? What i...

Saintly, how about we don't think of it as a sacking, just embracing improved technology. <richo> v1.0 was ok as a first response lifebuoy. Now we need a row boat and some people with oars and a compass. Steam power was ok way back, but we have better options now. Once there were myths about the ear...

Where is our Peggy O'Neal. And who was that lady next to the current President last night. I find it difficult to believe that Nick, Joey, Lenny, Harvs, Nicky Dal, Stuey, Bakes, Blakey, Andrew Thompson, Burkey and GT et al et al either individually or in some grouping will allow the current trajecto...

Think all the outs mentioned (6) are good nominations. That would seem the minimum reaction to what has officially been described as an unacceptable performance. vacuous space's idea also strikes a chord. We need bigger sized and one grab men at the clearances as we either get brushed aside or canno...

The cumulative effect of losing and being whipping boys for top teams would be more damaging I think, particularly with no light at the end of the coaching/management tunnel. It just drains motivation like nobody's business. We just have to win a game somehow. I can't think about the aftermath if th...

A good coach still needs good cattle. Give us Martin, Rance and Naismith and I think we would perform better (doh!). But Hardwick is a good coach. There is indisputable evidence Richo is incompetent at senior level. He is so incompetent he can't even see it and negotiate an exit with honour. Saying ...

If our trained, but note not practicing lawyers, had say the initiative of the ambulance chaser section of that community at least there might be some energy and rat cunning shown. These guys are time servers, no passion, no vision. A good lawyer would cross examine our outraged Senior Coach, who se...

The conundrum for me is what was/is the board thinking. Ameet, Pelchen, Watters, patently just not up to the responsibilities they were given. And now AR. I watched D. Sexton (who does what?) nagging at Richo on the bench. I would have thought so much more of Alan if he just slapped him to shut him ...

TV kept showing El Presidente juxtaposed to EL Serene Capitain de Coaches. No need to get more toxic than that more than a thousand words tableau. Richo is cactus - termino. Brave man that steps up after though. Ridicule is one thing Presidents cannot forgive and tonight he (like us and the club gen...

Our game plan is Nathan? The boys thought is was Nigel. No wonder.

Moods you are giving disorganisation and rabble bad names. This is the pits and I thought after years of Sainting I had already plumbed the depths. For mercy's sake Alan resign. Half the team have to be marked never to be picked again. I wish I had the right word to say how bad this is. Abandon all ...

Con for heavens sake run for president. This is appalling. Pride - my arse, so to speak.

So final tally. I am guessing 103.

He must be Alan's love child. Surely his last game for the firsts. Surely.

True. He is finished. Dead coach yelling. Hopeless. The flogging we had to have to regenerate. Half a dozen players have to go as well. If he is not gone the Board and CEO are negligent in the extreme. If Alan is half the character some say he will resign now.

Not meaning to be contrary but has he done so badly compared to other clubs given the uncertainties implicit in the draft, luck with available talent when your pick comes and the brief he would have got from the club as to player type to go for, as well as the influence of Mr Pelchen. Off the top of...

saintspremiers, good question, as 360 Robbo would say, I don't know what I am saying. Its a feeling that this is an 11th hour opportunity for Alan to show something as we have been so dominated by Sydney we come from a low base against their very predictable style and set ups, so if we get hammered...

Saturday's match may be a true reality test for the current coaching group and a couple of problematic players e.g. Tom Hickey and Paddy Mc. In 2017 we were competitive in a Laverton preseason but lacked a bit of finishing skill. That lack seems to have got progressively bigger since then (baring th...

What Teflon said. Must be more to Lonie getting in ahead of Billings and White than meets the eye. Weller is one of those people in life that just always land on their feet (figure of speech, he falls over a lot).

Good one Loris. I went to WA to live in 1996 as well. Coincidence. Met George and Verdun Howell at WA Saints show once. Terrific gentlemen. Also remember how gracious and charming Stan Alves was after a (rare) win. Harvey side stepping Worsfold - marvellous that. Thanks for the reminder of such good...

Thanks L. Lodger, appreciated and enlightening. Has buggered my knee jerk criticisms but. Damn facts and logic again. Well played.

Did you notice in his photo op door stop afterwards he has completely adopted Ross Lyon's speech pattern. Now he has been called out by the tribunal for what has been well known for years two things are likely and not mutually exclusive - he will get suspended consistently for his "careless&quo...

Watched a selection of the affirmation umpiring decisions/non decision on AFL360 with mixed emotions. Felt vindication that it was clear biased/poor/weak umpiring but cross that it was treated as a fact of life to accept, giggle smirk. I am going to suggest to Steve the Operations man that at Perth ...

Pride has been known as the worst of the seven deadly sins - if you believe in sin. It is also a group of lions like that Brisbane team. Gay Pride I understand refers to a stance against violence and discrimination against the LGBTIQ community. But a Gay Pride match is probably a marketing problem a...