How about option 3. Play the kids and somehow still manage to get into the 8. I agree play howard, geary, connors, armitage, mcEvoy, Ellen perhaps, Eddy, Steven as opposed to Fiora, Fisher, Blake, Milne, C gardiner - and you might find us in a better position anyway. then, we have at least some trad...

your question:
Is there a problem at the club that gives rise to Ross Lyons comments that the players are lacking enthusiasm and energy?

answer:
we keep losing

Armitage himself only recently suggested fitness was a challenge for him at AFL level, or at least was last year - no 'sources' or 'inside word' here - it's in the media - this may be why he's a/ not getting lots of game time and b/ being dropped

unbelievable

yeah, Foschini was a superstar

it's 7 versus 6, 5 versus 8 expect Saints to romp into the top with alonside Geeling, Hawthorn and North Melbourne I hate to predict a North vs Hawthorn GF, but like both teams a lot North have a real escitement and depth of endeavor in their list. they bring in some scrawny kid from the two's and h...

vacuous space, any trade for NDS is simply the idea of he's one who who's underawed us and would also be valued. Would you consider a couple under 20 draft picks for him?

first I think for X, he's clearly been instructed to play safe... no flying for marks, concentrate on the weak side of his game i believe in focusing on the weak sides of your game during the week, not at training - so I think he's been de-flamboyantised, and that's affected his confidence. Raph jus...

Assistant coaches have just been shown the door, thank the Lord, and have been replaced with the following: skills coach: Jayson Daniels fitness coach: Tony Lockett Defensive coach: Silvio Foschini Forward coach: John Barker midfield coach: Dean Greig 19-23 year old motivational and part-time work p...

executions! excellent - and send the bill for the bullet to the player's family

I think a lot of you blokes would make decent administrators - impressed by a topic for the first time - nobody insulted anyone, everyone has strongly felt opinions. I like the idea of Kozi at CHB - been calling for it all year I've also like the idea of Roo on a wing I'd - this will sound insane - ...

I watched the game and can answer it, but, no surpirses - you know the answer already: those who gave it their all: Ball, Harvs, Hayes, Roo - although, he's getting fed up, Max, Sam Fisher those who contributed servicably and worked well enough: M Gardiner, Gram, Goddard, McQualter, Dempster, NDS, G...

yeah... there's doubtless pros and cons to both techniques... i know i prefer the more aggressive one, and the other hasn't obviously worked all that well for us

I don't like suggesting it but there is a bit of the Stan Alves demise / Tim Watson era behavior going on... and i don't suggest lose RL. I suggest you're right... something is NQR

problem is whether he had a good game or not, he's not good enough. players with big hearts and no skill are the death of any team that gets mesmerized by their spirit. go for class all the time, I say. C Jones would NEVER get a game under Mick Malthouse, because he has no time for players who are n...

Isn't the likes of Dempster in the side for the likes of Aker? Dempster or Birss is who I'd have gone with if Geary was being toweled up - but, you know, steep learning curve, he'll be OK

Lucas?
Your'e joking

Roo used to be an excellent kick for goal

people started not stopping talking about how he couldn't kick for goal... and now, sure enough, he can't

Tanking doesn't mean the players not playing, fonz_#15, or the coaching staff acting on game day in such a way as to orchestrate defeat, it is selecting teams that won't win, with longer term goals in mind. Picking 3-4 kids this year would neither be tanking, or even if it was, wouldn't be the 'head...

Ball is not the problem, mate. Have a good look at Kosi ..what does he give us?

Not LUKE Ball, you numbskull - he said 'ball delivery'

i'm not sure it's an issue of losing players so much as over-complicating things for them. IMHO we are a top 3 side playing like a bottom 3 side, and there are 3 basic problems: - players played out of position, or not given a chance to play to their strengths (ie, Roo should be on the wing, Kozi sh...

And I love his little phrase:
saints for the flag armitage for rising start

anyone got a translation on this post? anyone got a spare piece of punctuation floating around, a bit of grammar perhaps?

i agree with all on that except, I am an R Clarke apologist, and I don't think C Jones is good enough. But yeah, C Gardiner, Dempster, L Fisher, Fiora, Blake first to go,. In fact, I'd argue we hold onto our 4 young enough elite players (Fisher, Baker, Hayes, Goddard) and let anyone else go if the t...

you have nothing better to do in your life than troll this board? F**k off you useless idiot.

In:Allen, McEvoy, Stevens, Baker, Gilbert, Harvey, King Out:Gwilt, L.Fisher, Blake, Dempster, Gram, Jones, Milne I'm glad agreement is slowly forming that the awesome threesome of L Fisher, Blake and Dempster are not f****** good enough to play AFL football, and I put Clinton Jones there too. I'd dr...