Harvey was fine, wasn't the problem out there, besides Lenny, the rest of the midfield were very average indeed.

That game was as bad as the day we got 10 goals up against the Hawks out at Waverley and then stopped and watch them pass us by for the win. Agree with you there. Every side in the comp will have taken note of that, just as they did back then. Awful loss tonight, lets hope they can take stock, and ...

The only positive along with Sam Fisher.

jackal wrote:

Sainterman wrote:Kick long and have/hope one of our "dominant forwards" can take the grab.

This is exactly the wrong strategy and will not win like this

Agree, but thats what we do. Watching it makes me cringe.

Kick long and have/hope one of our "dominant forwards" can take the grab.

Raph our worst player...give me a break... Here's one that was worse for a start...Gehrig. Raph was ordinary tonight no doubt about it, but so was Dal, X, Joey, Roo, Gehrig, Gilbert, Fiora, L Fisher, Blake, and probably a few others. Spread the love around FFS Yes they were all s*** - no doubt abou...

His decision making is the big problem, and he is getting knocked off the ball too easily. Many poor players tonight, way too many, but he was one of them, and IMO, has been average all year. Needs to go back to the seconds, back to basics and earn his place. Tonight was awful, and its a long way ba...

We have no mongrel....we need some badly. SOFT AS!

I think Carlton might be tanking....

Ch 9 news reported this morning that Wayne Carey has spoken of his battle with Cocaine and alcohol in this weeks New Idea. Anyone else hear this??

I have most from about 1977 to 1993, then only Saints Finals after that....

Love looking at the ones when Plugger was around. Marking the goals in used to become very difficult as you would invariably run out of space, which back then was always a good thing!

Would have been an interesting scenario had Hawthorn won. Presumably now with two days to go they would have had to annul Hawthorns score to that point, reversing the result, re-organising a practise match for Hawthorn, switch the Final venue from Docklands to Fooball Park, re-organise the TV etc. ...

Would have been an interesting scenario had Hawthorn won. Presumably now with two days to go they would have had to annul Hawthorns score to that point, reversing the result, re-organising a practise match for Hawthorn, switch the Final venue from Docklands to Fooball Park, re-organise the TV etc. ...

Does anyone have information of what he actually did prior to his AFL role. I think he was a teacher at Trinity for a while, but whats his work history? I tried google but cant find much...

Anyone know much about the pre AFL days?

Plugger, you seem to support most things the AFL does... Do you think this amount of pay is reasonable? Are you happy with this much money going to Andy? Do you feel he is doing a good job? Is the game growing because of this guy running it? Do you think he is responsible for the growth?? Dont think...

Talking of forwards, it was interesting to see that G Train has kicked more goals than anyone else in the AFL since 2003 (at least according to the telecast of the St K Geel game on Saturday).

As for the stuff on Roo, who cares what they think...!

I thought Armo was great today, he put his body on the line, kicked that nice 9 pointer, and was instrumental in the second qtr where we set the win up.

That was a lovely kick from Armo! SUPERGOAL!

The Raffa was so annoying on Friday night...made me cringe everytime I heard it. Buckley was the only one who made sense!

AFl have rules, they just interpret them to suit their agenda in any particular situation - see Bakes, see Sirengate....etc, etc.

Magnificent! Very happy to have the big man back!!!

Won't hppen St Mik...he only wants to play for the Saints, will retire again if picked up by another club...

Take it with a grain of salt if you like but after checking this one with someone I know down at the club it seems he only wants to play with St Kilda. Will not play for any other club if they pick him up...


Not naming a source so take it or leave it...

Not sure how he will get back to th Saints. Has he nominated for the National Draft??? Gee - would have made life easier if he had made his mind up in September. Unless another club has talked him around...? If Saints lodged papers you would think it would be the only place he wanted to go though. L...

Could it be Laurence Bingham?

And sheesh Plugger was good! I was at that game and it was unbelievable to get up and win it!