realistically - he was not going to win us a finals game - and certainly not capable of producing a few "Stuart Dew Grand final moments" should we make the 2009 GF. I'm not trying to kick him whilst he is down - but I would have thought there was no point keeping him once we recruited Farr...

when was the last time we only had 1 veteran ?

I thought all of the following have been on the veterans list in recent years:
Max,
Harvey,
Peckett,
and I dont think there was a gap between Peckett then Burke & Loewe ?

I think the fixture is great. Geelong once. Hawthorn once. Collingwood once. No trip to the Gabba. One trip to Perth (and a game we should win) Melbourne, West Coast and Essendon twice. Two games in Adelaide within 3 weeks is good. You'd rather play at the same venue in quick succession than say Br...

for what its worth my thoughts on the following: Armo - will make it but probably as a GOP and B grader Geary - wont make it, Steven - for some reason I think he is the pick of this bunch and will graduate yearly from C grade to B grade and eventually to A grade Allen - I'm hopeful he will put some ...

IF his knee is ok (and that is a big IF) Attard would be worth our last pick in the draft or perhaps we can pick him in the PSD if we use our last pick in the draft to get Ben cousins

so with old board departed - would Matt Rendell be considered again ?

I think we are all in violent agreement .. Fiora, Jones, Eddy, Gwilt and McQaulter all played in the finals and not one of them would have got a game at Geelong or Hawthorn. Until that group is replaced with AFL standard players in our best 22 we cant win a flag.. PS> perhaps a fraction tough on Edd...

supposed key forward who cant hold a place in a dysfunctional Crows forward line........ no thanks - pass.

bring back Crippa ..

I'm a Kosi fan

One of the few guys in our team who can turn a guy single handedly when on song

can anyone comment on what role Ross Lyon played in this trade ie did he suggest it ?

we now have 2 x 3rd round picks following the Ray deal ? .. maybe one of those could get Harris over the line ?

read an article earlier this year that said Harves and Scott West were the only 2 players left in the comp that didnt come through the draft system

so does this mean that Fiora is a likely de-listing ?

what a dumb statistic - it means nothing. :roll: Fiora, M Gardiner, Farren Ray were all discarded ie we didnt pay Top 5 price. X Clarke could easily be compared to Farren Ray - a top 5 pick who has not lived up to expectation. By the way - for what its worth - I'm pretty sure S King was a #1 pick.

Geez - mixed feelings about this one. I still believe he can play. Anyone who thinks he is too old at 30 is kidding themselves. Not dissimilar to Harvey from a body type / running ability aspect - and Harves played a lot of great footy after he turned 30. Missed 2 seasons I hear you say ? .. didnt H...

give the number #4 to Jack Steven - the kid will break into the big time next season and just get better

so basically if the deal falls through with the Pies, the filth can claim they didnt want him due to "unspecified reasons" - rather than saying - "yeah, we managed to stuff up the recruitment of another big name"

nothing but ar$e covering in my opinion

It smells a bit like a positioning ploy to me .. ie we've forced the dogs to commit their first round draft pick .... a bit like the King vs Blake deal at Geelong - which was going to be a win - win for us. If thats the case, then it would appear we may finally have some shrewd wheelers and dealers ...

no club is going to swap a draft pick for our "top up" players like Gwilt, Fiora, Birss, L fisher, Howard etc etc .. and you are not going to find a dozen kids in the draft this year to replace what you want to throw ot .. then there is the question of who is currently in or out of contrac...

its too early to write off Allen Has shown some good signs - if memory serves me correctlly had a bad injury last year ? .. not sure if he has had the luxury of a full pre-season ? he is trying to break into a forward line that already has places for Reiwoldt, Kosi, Milne & Schnieder locked in. ...

King did pretty well everything asked of him this year. I would think the coaching staff would have considered his 2008 season "best case scenario".

Good work Kingy.

there will be no interest in L Fisher .. some club may punt on him in the PSD if they have cap room but definatley would get overlooked in the National Draft. A few clubs may be interested in X Clarke but I would suspect most clubs would be offering a late 3rd round pick or a late 2nd round pick at ...

If blues are looking to give Freo their 2nd round pick for Warnock then my bet would be they are offering a 3rd round pick for Matty.

This deal will go nowhere unless Saints beleive Matty wants out or Matty will never be able to get back to AFL standard.

GOP
Gives an honest contest
good engine
not afraid to put his body on the line
not the most skilled on our list
a long way from the worst
keep for 2009