Comeback Kid wrote:I hope Judd is out, I know thats not nice but I wanna win this week!

SEN just reported that Judd and Cousins participated in a light training run. Both reckon they are right to play but no announcement from West Coke yet.

Dear Archie and Rod, In the future can we please employ legal representation with a proven track record of success at the AFL tribunal. This isn't the first time we have shot ourselves in the foot due to inappropriate instruction. I'm surmising that whilst the people we have employed have been brill...

tonight because the umpiring will be as if it was an Eagles home game. Allen, McInerney and McBurney. Anyone want to venture a guess as to the free kick count and number of goals the Eagles will be gifted from dodgy frees in their forward 50? {edited to fix error} It's McBurney not McLaren. :oops:

If we get an injunction, does it prevent the AFL from imposing the current ban or does it prevent the AFL from imposing any ban until the case is decided? If it's the first option, you can guarantee the AFL will dedicate a camera to Baker's every move on the field; looking for absolutely anything to...

I notice nothing has been said about how it came to pass that Kirkwood had copies of the testimonies that witnesses had given to the investigator, prior to his having to give evidence?

Is this even going to be looked at? Cause it stinks to high heaven.

Yeah but Judd getting cleared of eyegouging when the evidence was there for all to see runs close.

Looks like St. Kilda will have to carry the can again in taking legal action to rectify a broken system in the AFL/VFL. Remember folks, we were heavily involved in the court action that dismantled the VFL's clearance rules (which were a clear restraint of trade) back in 1983. We won't win any friend...

Looks like St. Kilda will have to carry the can again in taking legal action to rectify a broken system in the AFL/VFL. Remember folks, we were heavily involved in the court action that dismantled the VFL's clearance rules (which were a clear restraint of trade) back in 1983. We won't win any friend...

Has anyone seen the exact wording of the charge? Looking at one of the appeal grounds, The crux of Baker's argument, contained within the notice of appeal, is that "the tribunal erred in allowing my account of events to form the basis of the charge, when the version of events that formed the ba...

From Baker has four points with appeal

"At the prompting of tribunal chairman John Hassett, a retired Victorian County Court judge, jury spokesman Wayne Henwood said the panel accepted Baker's evidence over Fremantle's."

The appeal is on Thursday night at 5:30pm, Melbourne time.

That was one of the points that Farmer and Kirkwood contradicted each other on. Farmer said he was standing still, Kirkwood said he was moving.

Had to turn off the radio after a minute of Greg Denham's missive this morning. The reek wafting from the radio was too strong. I guess that's a result of rimjobbing Dimwit and the Monkey?

Wearing a St kilda jumper immediately sets 200 activation points at the tribunal. Ex-Saints and tribunal members Burke and Loewe should be deeply ashamed of themselves. they have a system to work with and cannot step around it regardless of who played for whom and when and you cant see why baker wa...

The tribunal discarded Farmer's evidence as untrustworthy. They accepted Baker's version of events. Therefore, it does not discard the possibility that Farmer saw Baker move into his line and tried to flatten him but stuffed it up. It also doesn't preclude Farmer having dazed himself in the collisio...

As it stands at the moment, you could mount a case that Farmer saw Baker move into his path and decided to take him out but stuffed it up.

Wait, so because a bunch of other Saints supporters say something that contradicts what I said, that automatically makes ME the liar? Unless they put out a special edition version of the commentary in WA, when Voss first brings it to the attention of the audience that Farmer is down he clearly stat...

Actually, Voss initially said he did see it, then when his co-commentator mentioned that he may be called as a tribunal witness he did his best to backtrack. And I have that on video. Yes, Voss is a goose, but that doesn't change what he saw or what he said. Go back to the tape and then get your he...

I'm suprised the AFL hasn't shut down the email servers and fax machines so we can't get the paperwork in before the deadline.

So have we announced an appeal yet? Midday is the cut-off.

The whole In Play / Behind Play category was scrapped for this season. The grounds we should use are that no reasonable body could find anyone guilty on the evidence presented. Blocking a player's run has never been rough conduct. And it should never be rough conduct. The decision in this case reve...

It gets better. The AFL gave Kirkwood copies of both Baker's and Farmer's statements to the investigator before he was to give evidence. What reason was there to do this other than assist in setting up the lie?

THERE WAS NO VIDEO EVIDENCE!! The AFL have admitted there is none. The prosecutorial evidence was:- Jeff Farmer - didn't see anyone and didn't know who made contact with him Freo Trainer - didn't see the impact and was shown to have no real clue about what was going on. Medical evidence - Farmer had...

F%&*ing BULLSHYTE!!!


No clearer indication that this is rigged. Freo witnesses evidence is all over the shop. Nixon backs Baker's version.

Somehow they come up with this rubbish.

Take it to the frigging courts, we get no justice from the AFL.

SEN were discussing Fan websites and we were mentioned.