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by Mr Magic
Wed 22 Aug 2007 9:08pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: CONFIRMED: We are appealing
Replies: 124
Views: 18444

OnTheFence wrote:Mr Magic have you actually played football?
Mr Splinterupthear$e

Yes I have.

Relevance?
by Mr Magic
Wed 22 Aug 2007 7:24pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: CONFIRMED: We are appealing
Replies: 124
Views: 18444

Dear splinterupthear$e What is so difficult to understand? None of the crap you posted is relevant! Baker's testimony, which was accepted by the Tribunal, was that he did not lay a shepherd or bump or tackle or anything else. He 'blocked' which means he stopped dead in his tracks and Farmer cannoned...
by Mr Magic
Wed 22 Aug 2007 4:58pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Just play Baker anyway...
Replies: 8
Views: 2178

I believe the Swans went to Court and got a 'stay' (or something similar) so he was legally allowed to play. Once we lose the appeal tomorrow night there is nothing to stop us also going to court and getting a 'stay' pending a 'legal hearing'. The pricks I think have said the appeal is that last av...
by Mr Magic
Wed 22 Aug 2007 4:40pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: CONFIRMED: We are appealing
Replies: 124
Views: 18444

Bakes deserves a medal
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by Mr Magic
Wed 22 Aug 2007 4:29pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Baker v Whelan
Replies: 16
Views: 2764

Very well put QueenC. You continue to be one of the few 'reasoned voices' from over at Demonland. I was one of those howling for Whelan's head in round 1, but I would argue even that case is slightly different to this one. Whelan intentionally shepherded Ball by hip and shoulder. Baker's testimony, ...
by Mr Magic
Wed 22 Aug 2007 3:59pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: A question of reasonableness: basis for appeal
Replies: 26
Views: 5680

Your post seems reasonable to me :)

Why not email it to the Club?
I'm sure they could use all the help we can give them.
by Mr Magic
Wed 22 Aug 2007 3:46pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Just play Baker anyway...
Replies: 8
Views: 2178

I believe the Swans went to Court and got a 'stay' (or something similar) so he was legally allowed to play.

Once we lose the appeal tomorrow night there is nothing to stop us also going to court and getting a 'stay' pending a 'legal hearing'.
by Mr Magic
Wed 22 Aug 2007 3:06pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: A Tribunal review...
Replies: 28
Views: 4845

How would the argument put by the Tribunal apply in the Kos fractured scull incident against Footscray? Simple, Kosi is a Saints player and is obviously at fault for anything that happened. The whole thing is a joke - they are making the rules up as they go along so they can fit the evidence to teh...
by Mr Magic
Wed 22 Aug 2007 2:52pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: west coast updated injury list
Replies: 8
Views: 1880

You left one off

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by Mr Magic
Wed 22 Aug 2007 2:11pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Baker's case is underway - discussion
Replies: 310
Views: 51885

point out where i said baker was RUNNING in front of farmer..... then i'll apologise purple. Baker claimed he was running from Fremantle's half-back flank on the interchange side in front of Farmer, heading down the wing but slightly towards the Fremantle goal. Baker said he had initially been abou...
by Mr Magic
Wed 22 Aug 2007 12:54pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Baker's case is underway - discussion
Replies: 310
Views: 51885

No PurpleJesus, Baker did not admit causing the collision. What Baker admitted was that he got in front of Farmer and STOPEED. Farmer then cannoned into him and apparently did thte damage when his head clashed with the back of Baker's head. THE TRIBUNAL ACCEPTED THIS EVIDENCE Therefore your whole pr...
by Mr Magic
Wed 22 Aug 2007 12:32pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: A Tribunal review...
Replies: 28
Views: 4845

HarveysDeciple wrote:I get the feeling that if we win a court case the AFL will send us interstate 8 times next year, make us play at Skilled Stadium and give us every team in the top 6 twice, as well as 14 6 day breaks.

Can see that coming.
And we have done sensationally with them by toeing the line?
by Mr Magic
Wed 22 Aug 2007 11:32am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Grounds for Appeal?
Replies: 19
Views: 3419

Legally and tactically we may need to lodge an appeal.

It may be that the Club has plans to challenge this in a Court of Law and the last thing it would want is to have that challenge thrown out becuae it didn't avail itself of the opportunity (within AFL Rules) of lodging an appeal?
by Mr Magic
Wed 22 Aug 2007 9:38am
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Grounds for Appeal?
Replies: 19
Views: 3419

Grounds for Appeal?

If I understand the Tribunal decision correctly, Baker was found guilty of rough conduct because he put on a 'block' and as he was 50m away from the ball it was deemed 'out of play' and 'reckless'. Didn't the Tribunal in the Barry Hall case (belting Goose) deem that Hall was 'in play' becuase he 'an...
by Mr Magic
Tue 21 Aug 2007 11:35pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Only way you can fight the AFL on Baker
Replies: 6
Views: 1586

How about printing up some appropriate banners and holding them up every time the camera is on that portion of the crowd? I normally sit on lvl 2 just above where RB has his guests (usually including an AFL Commissioner) and I would be more than happy to hold a sign up at them as they pass me to get...
by Mr Magic
Tue 21 Aug 2007 11:31pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Matt of SEN back from Tribunal now giving run down
Replies: 73
Views: 11592

THE LAST STATEMENT IS AN ERROR IN FACT. FARMER MADE CONTACT WITH HIM WITH HIGH IMPACT, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!! ST KILDA - FIGHT THIS STUPID DECISION!! Well no..Bakes has admitted slamming on the brakes..therefore technically he collided with Farmer. theres no "sensible braking distance"...
by Mr Magic
Tue 21 Aug 2007 11:25pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Matt of SEN back from Tribunal now giving run down
Replies: 73
Views: 11592

THE LAST STATEMENT IS AN ERROR IN FACT. FARMER MADE CONTACT WITH HIM WITH HIGH IMPACT, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!! ST KILDA - FIGHT THIS STUPID DECISION!! Well no..Bakes has admitted slamming on the brakes..therefore technically he collided with Farmer. theres no "sensible braking distance"...
by Mr Magic
Tue 21 Aug 2007 11:08pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Online petition
Replies: 21
Views: 3607

Guyyysssss and girls Umm....you do realise that you are flooding the Inbox of the Club and that its not Jeff Farmer who'll have the job of deleting them all at 9am tomorrow?? Cant we find a way to send our support that wont cause our reception/admin staff so much grief?? They need to know that we a...
by Mr Magic
Tue 21 Aug 2007 10:50pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Matt of SEN back from Tribunal now giving run down
Replies: 73
Views: 11592

Panel said they believed Baker...but judged his action in stopping as reckless As I said earlier Baker gave himself up. Now will Whelan get a retrospective suspension for stepping in the way of Luke Ball. Apparently Luke Ball can get his head knocked off but thats OK, but Baker gets 7 weeks. But so...
by Mr Magic
Tue 21 Aug 2007 10:30pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Baker's case is underway - discussion
Replies: 310
Views: 51885

According to Mat Thompson on SEN (he was the reporter at the Tribunal), when the Guilty verdict was handed down Saints Lawyer asked the Tribunal Whose version of events did you believe? Bakers or Freo Trainers? Tribunal replied Bakers! Based on Baker claiming he ran at Farmer, stopped and Farmer can...
by Mr Magic
Tue 21 Aug 2007 9:51pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Why NO penalty yet ? !!
Replies: 6
Views: 1510

joffaboy wrote:Mabye the morons hope just to find him guilty and hope nobody realises they didn't give him a penalty.

Anything is possible.
Sorry Joffaboy - 7 weeks
by Mr Magic
Tue 21 Aug 2007 9:49pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Why NO penalty yet ? !!
Replies: 6
Views: 1510

Re: Why NO penalty yet ? !!

Eastern wrote:It is almost an hour. If they don't know which boxes to tick, how did they find him guilty? !!
Maybe they're trying to find a way to give him 'life'?
by Mr Magic
Tue 21 Aug 2007 9:33pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Baker's case is underway - discussion
Replies: 310
Views: 51885

sainter58 wrote:i posted it earlier. I saw what happened and he is guilty. You can all be judges but did any of you see the incident.


I DID
What you posted you saw doesn't apparently match what the AFL Freo evidence was.

How do you explain that difference?
by Mr Magic
Tue 21 Aug 2007 9:31pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: Baker's case is underway - discussion
Replies: 310
Views: 51885

Krikkett wrote:Who has said that there isn't video?


The AFL has stationary camera's with a wide view for umpire training...I'd suggest they picked up the incident.
Well if they did they didn't produce it as evidence tonight.

And you would think if they had photographic evidence they would produce it.
by Mr Magic
Tue 21 Aug 2007 9:24pm
Forum: Saintsational Fan Forum
Topic: dam
Replies: 14
Views: 2925

On what evidence ? well that's the thing, its Fremantles word against ours and of course the AFL EVERY SINGLE TIME will favour the Fockers. The umpire victory, siren gate and now this farmer off the ball bullshtye. At least this time we got the 4 POINTS Freo might launch a case saying that since Ba...