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Polo v Bakes

Post: # 1025344Post Con Gorozidis »

I know Lyon said Polo would be used as support/back up for lenny. But given the impact small fwds have at the moment is there any chance polo can play on a defensive fwd (gartlet, dids, le cras, stokes) types?

I know dempster has been used to some effect on small fwds recently and I dont know a lot about Polo so excuse my ignorance on the matter. But sooner or later and maybe sooner we will need a replacement for Bakes to cover all these goal scoring fleas.


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Post: # 1025523Post rexy »

I wonder whether Polo could replace Jones as a tagger but with better skills and a more damaging offensive game?


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Post: # 1025540Post ben_fff »

Why would Jones be replaced as a tagger, his last 2 years have been on the better side of good.

I don't think much should be expected of Polo, unlike most I'm happy to have him on our list but he has a long way to go before he can pin down a spot in the 22.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:But sooner or later and maybe sooner we will need a replacement for Bakes to cover all these goal scoring fleas.
yep, i reckon you just might be right on this one.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:I know Lyon said Polo would be used as support/back up for lenny. But given the impact small fwds have at the moment is there any chance polo can play on a defensive fwd (gartlet, dids, le cras, stokes) types?

I know dempster has been used to some effect on small fwds recently and I dont know a lot about Polo so excuse my ignorance on the matter. But sooner or later and maybe sooner we will need a replacement for Bakes to cover all these goal scoring fleas.
Guess Armo should start looking for somewhere else to go now then. He hasn't been told he will be used for anything. I thought he was supposed to be back up for Lenny.


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DWOODROW wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:I know Lyon said Polo would be used as support/back up for lenny. But given the impact small fwds have at the moment is there any chance polo can play on a defensive fwd (gartlet, dids, le cras, stokes) types?

I know dempster has been used to some effect on small fwds recently and I dont know a lot about Polo so excuse my ignorance on the matter. But sooner or later and maybe sooner we will need a replacement for Bakes to cover all these goal scoring fleas.
Guess Armo should start looking for somewhere else to go now then. He hasn't been told he will be used for anything. I thought he was supposed to be back up for Lenny.
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DWOODROW wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:I know Lyon said Polo would be used as support/back up for lenny. But given the impact small fwds have at the moment is there any chance polo can play on a defensive fwd (gartlet, dids, le cras, stokes) types?

I know dempster has been used to some effect on small fwds recently and I dont know a lot about Polo so excuse my ignorance on the matter. But sooner or later and maybe sooner we will need a replacement for Bakes to cover all these goal scoring fleas.
Guess Armo should start looking for somewhere else to go now then. He hasn't been told he will be used for anything. I thought he was supposed to be back up for Lenny.
I think he has potentional to make the team in his own right. Not a back up to anyone.
Hopefully he can stay injury/niggle free and he can show us how good he can be consistently.


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DWOODROW wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:I know Lyon said Polo would be used as support/back up for lenny. But given the impact small fwds have at the moment is there any chance polo can play on a defensive fwd (gartlet, dids, le cras, stokes) types?

I know dempster has been used to some effect on small fwds recently and I dont know a lot about Polo so excuse my ignorance on the matter. But sooner or later and maybe sooner we will need a replacement for Bakes to cover all these goal scoring fleas.
Guess Armo should start looking for somewhere else to go now then. He hasn't been told he will be used for anything. I thought he was supposed to be back up for Lenny.
in my best 22 - i have armo first rover. just thinking polo might work as a small defender cos there are so many small fwds these days and they have a habit of cutting us up and as great a warrior as he has been bakes might be almost baked.


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DWOODROW wrote: Guess Armo should start looking for somewhere else to go now then. He hasn't been told he will be used for anything. I thought he was supposed to be back up for Lenny.
Do you think the recruitement of Polo will help Dave feel motivated DW, same as all the other players and roles that we seem to have good depth for now?

I remember reading an article at the start of this year, where David was interviewed and said he wasn't under any pressure, that the spot was there for the taking.

Now his competitive juices may start flowing, knowing that there is someone breathing down his neck?

Nothing like a bit of pressure for spots to keep a team motivated.


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Jonesy as been outstanding for the last 2 years.

His GF2 was a bad a numerous others.

He is a lock for best 22... Polo or no Polo.

On the original point, Polo could be very useful as a small defender... whether or not he can dislodge a fit and firing Bakes is another matter.


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bergholt wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:But sooner or later and maybe sooner we will need a replacement for Bakes to cover all these goal scoring fleas.
yep, i reckon you just might be right on this one.
That makes two forward structures we need to be able to account for. Collingwood's tall timber (Dawes/Cloke/Brown) or Carlton's mosquito fleet (Betts/Yarran/Garlett).

Which one is most likely to be around at the pointy end of September?


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InkerSaint wrote:
bergholt wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:But sooner or later and maybe sooner we will need a replacement for Bakes to cover all these goal scoring fleas.
yep, i reckon you just might be right on this one.
That makes two forward structures we need to be able to account for. Collingwood's tall timber (Dawes/Cloke/Brown) or Carlton's mosquito fleet (Betts/Yarran/Garlett).

Which one is most likely to be around at the pointy end of September?
what? i don't have to tell you that collingwood still have smalls (beams/sidebottom/macaffer/blair/etc) in the same way carlton still have talls. we'll always need one or two small defenders. bakes is aging fast and with the delisting of miles there's no obvious replacement. dempster could be close, as could polo. surely that's the original point?


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bergholt wrote:
InkerSaint wrote:
bergholt wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:But sooner or later and maybe sooner we will need a replacement for Bakes to cover all these goal scoring fleas.
yep, i reckon you just might be right on this one.
That makes two forward structures we need to be able to account for. Collingwood's tall timber (Dawes/Cloke/Brown) or Carlton's mosquito fleet (Betts/Yarran/Garlett).

Which one is most likely to be around at the pointy end of September?
what? i don't have to tell you that collingwood still have smalls (beams/sidebottom/macaffer/blair/etc) in the same way carlton still have talls. we'll always need one or two small defenders. bakes is aging fast and with the delisting of miles there's no obvious replacement. dempster could be close, as could polo. surely that's the original point?

agree - have u heard of didak?
anyway we need both littles and bigs anda flexible defence or are u just conceding to carlton and essendon every year cos we only care about september? with that kind of attitude we wont see september.


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Post: # 1025585Post InkerSaint »

Maybe I gave you the wrong idea. Where did I say we don't need to account for both types?


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DWOODROW wrote: Guess Armo should start looking for somewhere else to go now then. He hasn't been told he will be used for anything. I thought he was supposed to be back up for Lenny.
Do you think the recruitement of Polo will help Dave feel motivated DW, same as all the other players and roles that we seem to have good depth for now?

I remember reading an article at the start of this year, where David was interviewed and said he wasn't under any pressure, that the spot was there for the taking.

Now his competitive juices may start flowing, knowing that there is someone breathing down his neck?

Nothing like a bit of pressure for spots to keep a team motivated.
Geez, Armo needs to work hard, play some good games consecutively in the lower grade and force (demand) his way into the side. Being ear marked for a role, or thinking it is there for the taking is BS. These guys are lucky to be on an AFL list and need to work hard and repay the faith the clubs have shown in them by choosing them in the first place. I for one like Armo, and the games he has played for us have been ok, none have set the world on fire. But really getting sick of this discussion every time we talk about an in and under role, or some role he might be able to play. Work hard and make it impossible not to select you in the side! If he is thinking like you DWOODROW he will never bloody make it!

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InkerSaint wrote:Maybe I gave you the wrong idea. Where did I say we don't need to account for both types?
the rhetorical question "which one is most likely to be around at the pointy end of september" seems to suggest a focus on countering one over the other.


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DWOODROW wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:I know Lyon said Polo would be used as support/back up for lenny. But given the impact small fwds have at the moment is there any chance polo can play on a defensive fwd (gartlet, dids, le cras, stokes) types?

I know dempster has been used to some effect on small fwds recently and I dont know a lot about Polo so excuse my ignorance on the matter. But sooner or later and maybe sooner we will need a replacement for Bakes to cover all these goal scoring fleas.
Guess Armo should start looking for somewhere else to go now then. He hasn't been told he will be used for anything. I thought he was supposed to be back up for Lenny.
Or, he could go about demanding a spot by training the house down over summer and producing the form that many believe he is capable of during the pre-season/nab cup !!


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
bergholt wrote:
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bergholt wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:But sooner or later and maybe sooner we will need a replacement for Bakes to cover all these goal scoring fleas.
yep, i reckon you just might be right on this one.
That makes two forward structures we need to be able to account for. Collingwood's tall timber (Dawes/Cloke/Brown) or Carlton's mosquito fleet (Betts/Yarran/Garlett).

Which one is most likely to be around at the pointy end of September?
what? i don't have to tell you that collingwood still have smalls (beams/sidebottom/macaffer/blair/etc) in the same way carlton still have talls. we'll always need one or two small defenders. bakes is aging fast and with the delisting of miles there's no obvious replacement. dempster could be close, as could polo. surely that's the original point?

agree - have u heard of didak?
anyway we need both littles and bigs anda flexible defence or are u just conceding to carlton and essendon every year cos we only care about september? with that kind of attitude we wont see september.
Not to mention Krakouer. But I'm not sure Polo is the answer to the "smalls". He's not really "small", or particularly quick, himself, I wouldn't have thought. Maybe the only chance Mini has of playing a long career is to play that role once Bakes moves on. And maybe that's the role we got Cripps to play.


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