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Re: Locking threads

Post: # 1044750Post satchmo »

Teflon wrote:
satchmo wrote:
Teflon wrote:
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Teflon wrote: Keep up the good work.
Yeah, censorship rocks...

Don't mention the war Grace.
Good to have you on board...

Censorship sure beats senselesshit posts.
Wow :shock:

You should start a facebook page.
Can't. Everytime Ive posted my view in this thread so far Ive had to defend that to people campaigning for........wait for it............free speech? :shock:

Im confused.
So your idea of free speech is denying others that right? No wonder your confused!


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Re: Locking threads

Post: # 1044751Post Teflon »

satchmo wrote:
Teflon wrote:
The Fireman wrote:
Teflon wrote:
Armoooo wrote:
SENsaintsational wrote:Sorry Armooo, but nothing gets my goat up more than locking of threads. It didn't breach any rule of the site so why can it not be discussed, or let to die it's own death?

The role of a Mod is not to censor the conversation unless it breaks rules.

Just because you think a conversation has run it's course, doesn't mean it actually has.

Really very irritating.
Sorry that you're not happy about it but sometimes you have to make a judgement call.

For every one person who thinks like you that it should be allowed to die it's own death there is another that was asking for it to be locked days earlier.

I feel that we gave it enough time for people to say what they wanted to say.

Whilst this one may have not broken any specific rules (where other threads have been locked because of consistent rule breaking) it still just isn't a good look for the website or the club IMO.
Total agreeance Armoo.

Trash threads on malicious rumours like that serve no good purpose - free speech or otherwise.

I woke this morning and didnt feel my rights had been stripped from me due to a locked thread on SS.

Keep up the good work.
so could you please enlighten us as to what you deem to be the norm as to what serves our purpose.
It's good that you didn't feel that your rights had been stripped but your ambivalence isn't shared by the majority.
Hey - I expressed a view, its my view......are you suggesting I need to defend that to your "left wing yuppie" ideals? Whose "censoring" who?

Lets start a topic - "Political Correctness and Moral Do Gooders......are they just another form of censorship?"

I thought you "rights crusaders" could roll with the punches...........clearly not... :lol:
:D Opened the other bottle teffy?
LOL appears so. Still, I find this thread ironic thus far.......

Those demanding "free speech" are now questioning my "right" to hold a view that ...in this particular threads case.......censorship is warranted..

I do think censorship has a place in society - otherwise creep kiddy crawlers would have a field day on those unprotected (and lest be honest....the innocent suffer as some parents can't/don't care).


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Re: Locking threads

Post: # 1044752Post Teflon »

satchmo wrote:
Teflon wrote:
satchmo wrote:
Teflon wrote:
satchmo wrote:
Teflon wrote: Keep up the good work.
Yeah, censorship rocks...

Don't mention the war Grace.
Good to have you on board...

Censorship sure beats senselesshit posts.
Wow :shock:

You should start a facebook page.
Can't. Everytime Ive posted my view in this thread so far Ive had to defend that to people campaigning for........wait for it............free speech? :shock:

Im confused.
So your idea of free speech is denying others that right? No wonder your confused!
Is it allor nothign? black or white?

In your world nothing should be censored? So those kids who cant protect themselves shouldnt be afforded that in any way?

I too like kumbaya, long walks on the beach with the birds chirping away....but lifes not always so lovely...(yours could be...power to you)....


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Post: # 1044754Post satchmo »

Teflon wrote: LOL appears so. Still, I find this thread ironic thus far.......

Those demanding "free speech" are now questioning my "right" to hold a view that ...in this particular threads case.......censorship is warranted..

I do think censorship has a place in society - otherwise creep kiddy crawlers would have a field day on those unprotected (and lest be honest....the innocent suffer as some parents can't/don't care).
Not sure that the issue here is free speech. It's more about who has editorial rights..and those that put the screws on them via pm.

Censorship may well be good. It really depends on who is doing it.


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Post: # 1044756Post satchmo »

Teflon wrote:
satchmo wrote: So your idea of free speech is denying others that right? No wonder your confused!
Is it allor nothign? black or white?
So you're saying that your freedom of speech requires that others should be silenced?


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Re: Locking threads

Post: # 1044758Post Teflon »

satchmo wrote:
Teflon wrote: LOL appears so. Still, I find this thread ironic thus far.......

Those demanding "free speech" are now questioning my "right" to hold a view that ...in this particular threads case.......censorship is warranted..

I do think censorship has a place in society - otherwise creep kiddy crawlers would have a field day on those unprotected (and lest be honest....the innocent suffer as some parents can't/don't care).
Not sure that the issue here is free speech. It's more about who has editorial rights..and those that put the screws on them via pm.

Censorship may well be good. It really depends on who is doing it.
I get the concern and agree to an extent....Ive had mod issues over the years myself.....but its a tough job.


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Teflon wrote:.Ive had mod issues over the years myself.....but its a tough job.
Now on that we can agree!


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Post: # 1044762Post The Fireman »

So I guess what you are saying Tef is that you believe the posters on here aren't intelligent enough to be able to cope with threads of certain types ?


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Re: Locking threads

Post: # 1044765Post Teflon »

satchmo wrote:
Teflon wrote:
satchmo wrote: So your idea of free speech is denying others that right? No wonder your confused!
Is it allor nothign? black or white?
So you're saying that your freedom of speech requires that others should be silenced?
No, Im simply saying that in some instances....freedom of speech is a misnomer.

Are you suggesting censorship in any form or for any topic should not be used?


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Post: # 1044772Post satchmo »

Teflon wrote:
Are you suggesting censorship in any form or for any topic should not be used?
Not at all.

The question is - who do you trust with that power? Clearly not me, because I disagree with that thread being locked.

Would you trust someone that you had no influence over?


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Post: # 1044775Post Teflon »

The Fireman wrote:So I guess what you are saying Tef is that you believe the posters on here aren't intelligent enough to be able to cope with threads of certain types ?
To a degree Fireman - we do have some dumb posters... :wink: Ok, Im not being serious but Rodgerfox springs to mind.

Look, without banging on about this all night (I have Collingwood fans at BF I need to deride...time permitting this evening..) I am saying that in cases like the "non existent vid thread" (that had 5 pages of free speech...plenty of time to at least determine if there were any facts at all) that on some occasions I agree with mods making a stand and locking the thread.

TBH - I think threads should be locked when they are malicious, unfounded rumours/attacks....OR when their sole purpose is obviously to disrupt the forum. Ofcourse, thats only my view...


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Re: Locking threads

Post: # 1044778Post Teflon »

satchmo wrote:
Teflon wrote:
Are you suggesting censorship in any form or for any topic should not be used?
Not at all.

The question is - who do you trust with that power? Clearly not me, because I disagree with that thread being locked.

Would you trust someone that you had no influence over?
Not America.

But keeping it real on a footy fan site I have to trust in the mods. Sure, they'll get it wrong on occasions, but theyre all we've got....and I shudder at the thought of this place without anyone looking after its operation.

Im getting a tatt: "In Mods We Trust".


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Post: # 1044782Post The Fireman »

Teflon wrote:
The Fireman wrote:So I guess what you are saying Tef is that you believe the posters on here aren't intelligent enough to be able to cope with threads of certain types ?
To a degree Fireman - we do have some dumb posters... :wink: Ok, Im not being serious but Rodgerfox springs to mind.

Look, without banging on about this all night (I have Collingwood fans at BF I need to deride...time permitting this evening..) I am saying that in cases like the "non existent vid thread" (that had 5 pages of free speech...plenty of time to at least determine if there were any facts at all) that on some occasions I agree with mods making a stand and locking the thread.

TBH - I think threads should be locked when they are malicious, unfounded rumours/attacks....OR when their sole purpose is obviously to disrupt the forum. Ofcourse, thats only my view...
I believe your views are fairly balanced but who am I to say....;) there in lies the dilemma.

anyway thanks for the chat, just downloaded Goldfinger..James Bond 1964, off to watch it over a dry Martini and a few other assorted things.
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Post: # 1044785Post satchmo »

Teflon wrote: TBH - I think threads should be locked when they are malicious, unfounded rumours/attacks....OR when their sole purpose is obviously to disrupt the forum. Ofcourse, thats only my view...
I think that this a reasonable opinion, and you are certainly entitled to express it.

I was not that enamoured with the thread in question, however it is my opinion that the endless rumour mongering that has engulfed our club along with some factual incidents needs to be met head on.

Any peanut can get on the net and say "player %^ is rumoured to have %$^& a *(&^ in full view of several people from )(&^%$*(*"

My view is expose the lies/crap. Attack it. The has been enough real s*** to deal with that surely we are hard enough to deal with bulls***?

The other point I would make is that the mod in question suggested that he had been pressured via pm to lock the thread. If this is the way that these decisions are made then surely we should ALL pressure the mods with our opinions - not just the elite censorship brigade. :P


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Post: # 1044795Post mbogo »

Damn - missed the entire thing.
Can someone enlighten me as to what the controversy is about - or maybe what the thread was called?


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Post: # 1044804Post asiu »

i think it was about an ex seth african mod of this place , either
: claiming to own the website saintsfooty.com and / or saintsfooty.com.au
: claiming to have put a condom on nicks schlong
: claiming to have done a ricky with kimmie
: claiming that he never made any of these claims

i'm not sure really

but a damn fine question , none the less 8-)



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Post: # 1044808Post mbogo »

Oooh the orange hats thread ????
Personally I want no threads locked unless someone posts pics of me with me jocks off - I wouldn't want anyone else to feel intimidated :P


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Post: # 1044809Post asiu »

nah , 'that' thread disappeared ...like magic ... all 17 pages of it

amazing

lol ... this threads not about disappearing threads ... is it ?

maybe your jocks are going to same place ?


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Post: # 1044835Post matrix »

so basically the club or someone from the club that actually reads/posts here TOLD moderators to move it



"OR when their sole purpose is obviously to disrupt the forum"

ohhh
like trolls
from opp teams
that are constantly allowed to post here?


see this is what amazes me, a few pms and a thread is gone.
yet 20 odd people whine about a troll opp supporter and nothing is done.
WE pay for this site, if it wasnt for a lot of people here, there would be NO site.

and if mods or admin edit posts can they put a reason at the bottom of the post and who edited it
its common decency


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Post: # 1044838Post joffaboy »

I am in agreement with Teflon on this issue.

Actually this thread should be moved as it does not relate to football but administration of the forum.

I have always said you abide by the forum rules and the moderators discretion.

If you dont like it, you are free not to post or read this thread.

If you are really against aspects of this forum, you can start alternative, forums, facebook pages etc, as other have.

Really it is not that big a deal in the scheme of things.


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Post: # 1044848Post asiu »

just something to chat about

at the end of the day , we are just here for a laugh aren't we ?


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Post: # 1044851Post asiu »

it'd go well with one of cb18's hats


can anyone photoshop ?


hahahaha


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Post: # 1044852Post Dr Spaceman »

gazrat wrote:just something to chat about

at the end of the day , we are just here for a laugh aren't we ?


hey joff ,

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put a bit of colour in your hair ? ... looks good

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Now does THAT come in orange :D


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Post: # 1044858Post IluvHarvey »

I can see where this thread is headed.


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Post: # 1044860Post joffaboy »

gazrat wrote:just something to chat about

at the end of the day , we are just here for a laugh aren't we ?


hey joff ,

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put a bit of colour in your hair ? ... looks good

:)
Not my best angle :D

But yes i am that hot in the mankini and doesn't the crowd appreciate it :D


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