Dear Ross FFS Leave Goddard at CHF or FF

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
eppo67
Club Player
Posts: 896
Joined: Mon 27 Feb 2006 6:46pm
Location: Gold Coast QLD. via Mentone Vic.

Dear Ross FFS Leave Goddard at CHF or FF

Post: # 1052822Post eppo67 »

How many backmen do we need for God's sake.
ATM we have; BAKER, DAWSON, BLAKE, FISHER, GILBERT, GWILT, GRAM, CLARKE, DEMPSTER, GEARY,SIMPKIN, WINMAR & GODDARD.

IMO if ROSS is fair dinkim about his new attacking brand of football Goddard must be left at CHF or FF for an extended period NOT for half a game here and there. Can you see the opposition leaving Goodard alone off the ball to go triple team ROO I don't think so.

Cannot one of Fisher, Gilbert, Gwilt or Clarke fill the roll of course not as well BUT are we playing attacking new branded football or what?

We have one of the top 5 footballers in the code and he plays a sweeping role across half back. Its got to go we need to start kicking 12 to 16 goals a game not 6 to 8.

Con keeps telling us with Jack ROO we would have one 2 flags by now well I bet my left nut Goddard would become a better FWD if Ross leaves him there to learn the spot and I further reckon it wouldnt take him too long to learn either. For God's sake leave him there for an extended period Ross please!!


SainterK
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 21057
Joined: Thu 14 Aug 2008 9:53pm
Location: Melb

Post: # 1052824Post SainterK »

This thread needs more



8-)


User avatar
Junction Oval
SS Life Member
Posts: 2867
Joined: Tue 30 Nov 2010 11:16am
Been thanked: 19 times

Post: # 1052825Post Junction Oval »

Agree. The forward structure (plus delivery) is the current problem. Put your best down there, or even rotate through there to make an impact/difference.

A player of Goddard's stature will certainly release blanket coverage of Riewoldt.

It's early days and a few things tried now, will be better than leaving it until it's too late. :!:


eppo67
Club Player
Posts: 896
Joined: Mon 27 Feb 2006 6:46pm
Location: Gold Coast QLD. via Mentone Vic.

Post: # 1052826Post eppo67 »

SainterK wrote:This thread needs more



8-)
And where was he next week across back plugging up holes. Well l reckon I'm not the only one who thinks are FWD line is our biggest hole.
Godarrd is a game winner ATM Ross has him as a goal saver just another defensive cog in a wheel that is already too defensive.


spert
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8999
Joined: Wed 29 Jun 2005 10:39pm
Location: A distant beach
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 416 times

Post: # 1052828Post spert »

Nice video..I would really like to see Goddard and NDS deep played in the forward line where they would do most damage. A forward line of Roo, Goddard and NDS would provide a lot of defensive headaches for opposition teams...clearly RL has no concept of attacking footy looking at Round 1, so maybe we will see a sudden turnaround against Richmond? anymore of that low scoring tripe and I will be losing a lot of interest very early in the season.


SainterK
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 21057
Joined: Thu 14 Aug 2008 9:53pm
Location: Melb

Post: # 1052829Post SainterK »

Depends if you're talking 2010 or 2011 eppo.

Last year towards the end of the season, we could of had a forward line of Jack, Roo Buddy and BJ and it wouldn't of mattered much.

Need to get the ball in there, and quickly.

I still reckon we're working on increasing the entries, that appears to be the focus for mine.

The tinkering to the forward line personnel will come you'd think.


bergsone
SS Life Member
Posts: 2905
Joined: Mon 28 Apr 2008 4:56pm
Location: victoria
Has thanked: 260 times
Been thanked: 116 times

Post: # 1052831Post bergsone »

Goddard Roo Schneider

Gamble Kosi Milne

Should IMO be a 12...14 goal forward line,good in theory but you still need your mids hitting the score board also.Back line to me is and hasnt for a while been a problem


User avatar
Junction Oval
SS Life Member
Posts: 2867
Joined: Tue 30 Nov 2010 11:16am
Been thanked: 19 times

Post: # 1052840Post Junction Oval »

Your set-up looks good to me Bergsone. Can't wait to getting them all on the park. However, Gamble is still a gamble to me.

Let's see what the coaches do this week :!:


eppo67
Club Player
Posts: 896
Joined: Mon 27 Feb 2006 6:46pm
Location: Gold Coast QLD. via Mentone Vic.

Post: # 1052845Post eppo67 »

SainterK wrote:Depends if you're talking 2010 or 2011 eppo.

Last year towards the end of the season, we could of had a forward line of Jack, Roo Buddy and BJ and it wouldn't of mattered much.

Need to get the ball in there, and quickly.

I still reckon we're working on increasing the entries, that appears to be the focus for mine.

The tinkering to the forward line personnel will come you'd think.
Good points but its not like there isn't numerous players who can't play Goddards current role ie Fisher, Gilbert, Gwilt & Clarke and others on the way Simpkin & Winmar. Fwd 50 entries mean jack if they are not converted as friday night clearly showed.


User avatar
markp
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 15480
Joined: Mon 26 Mar 2007 4:22pm
Has thanked: 62 times
Been thanked: 81 times

Post: # 1052853Post markp »

Yup.

The improvement in accuracy of kicking for goal would give us a couple more goals a game alone... compare that to the prospect of Gilbert.


User avatar
rexy
SS Life Member
Posts: 3373
Joined: Wed 24 Mar 2004 12:12am
Location: The Gully

Post: # 1052858Post rexy »

Goddard is a midfielder, best field kick in the side, a general around the stoppages and a good decision maker coming out of the back line.

Why put him at FF wher he will only touch it a dozen times a game?


Maybe this year?
eppo67
Club Player
Posts: 896
Joined: Mon 27 Feb 2006 6:46pm
Location: Gold Coast QLD. via Mentone Vic.

Post: # 1052860Post eppo67 »

rexy wrote:Goddard is a midfielder, best field kick in the side, a general around the stoppages and a good decision maker coming out of the back line.

Why put him at FF wher he will only touch it a dozen times a game?
Put him at CHF and Roo at FF then.


User avatar
markp
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 15480
Joined: Mon 26 Mar 2007 4:22pm
Has thanked: 62 times
Been thanked: 81 times

Post: # 1052867Post markp »

rexy wrote:Goddard is a midfielder, best field kick in the side, a general around the stoppages and a good decision maker coming out of the back line.

Why put him at FF wher he will only touch it a dozen times a game?
He's the guy in our team I'd choose to kick for goal if my life depended on it... can take a hanger too I'm told.


User avatar
Spinner
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8502
Joined: Sat 02 Dec 2006 3:40pm
Location: Victoria
Has thanked: 185 times
Been thanked: 133 times

Post: # 1052871Post Spinner »

rexy wrote:Goddard is a midfielder, best field kick in the side, a general around the stoppages and a good decision maker coming out of the back line.

Why put him at FF wher he will only touch it a dozen times a game?
Excellent post!!!!!


User avatar
rexy
SS Life Member
Posts: 3373
Joined: Wed 24 Mar 2004 12:12am
Location: The Gully

Post: # 1052872Post rexy »

Midfield resting forward, not permanant forward. Just my opinion and Im sticking to it. You dont have superstar mid sitting idle.

Neil Elvis winmar could have been a champion forward too, but he was our best wingman!


Maybe this year?
SainterK
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 21057
Joined: Thu 14 Aug 2008 9:53pm
Location: Melb

Post: # 1052873Post SainterK »

Spinner wrote:
rexy wrote:Goddard is a midfielder, best field kick in the side, a general around the stoppages and a good decision maker coming out of the back line.

Why put him at FF wher he will only touch it a dozen times a game?
Excellent post!!!!!
Against the Dockers in rd 4 he had 21 disposals, 17 kicks, 4 handballs, 9 marks, 5 goals, 2 behinds, 3 tackles, 6 inside 50's, 1 assist.


User avatar
Dr Spaceman
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 14102
Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2009 11:07pm
Location: Newtown Institute of Saintology
Has thanked: 104 times
Been thanked: 62 times

Post: # 1052874Post Dr Spaceman »

SainterK wrote:
Spinner wrote:
rexy wrote:Goddard is a midfielder, best field kick in the side, a general around the stoppages and a good decision maker coming out of the back line.

Why put him at FF wher he will only touch it a dozen times a game?
Excellent post!!!!!
Against the Dockers in rd 4 he had 21 disposals, 17 kicks, 4 handballs, 9 marks, 5 goals, 2 behinds, 3 tackles, 6 inside 50's, 1 assist.
Presumably he wasn't at Full Forward for the whole game.

If he was, 5.2 is a pretty average return from 17 kicks :wink:


bigcarl
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 18520
Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 1:36am
Has thanked: 1847 times
Been thanked: 825 times

Re: Dear Ross FFS Leave Goddard at CHF or FF

Post: # 1052875Post bigcarl »

eppo67 wrote:How many backmen do we need for God's sake.
ATM we have; BAKER, DAWSON, BLAKE, FISHER, GILBERT, GWILT, GRAM, CLARKE, DEMPSTER, GEARY,SIMPKIN, WINMAR & GODDARD.
good point.

you reckon we'd be able to spare some quality resources for use up forward.

i was looking forward to seeing how gilbert would go, but apparently he doesn't feel "comfortable" in the forward line. :roll:

goddard would be magnificent as a forward (just as he is everywhere else) but I doubt we'll see it.


User avatar
Dr Spaceman
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 14102
Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2009 11:07pm
Location: Newtown Institute of Saintology
Has thanked: 104 times
Been thanked: 62 times

Re: Dear Ross FFS Leave Goddard at CHF or FF

Post: # 1052876Post Dr Spaceman »

bigcarl wrote:
eppo67 wrote:How many backmen do we need for God's sake.
ATM we have; BAKER, DAWSON, BLAKE, FISHER, GILBERT, GWILT, GRAM, CLARKE, DEMPSTER, GEARY,SIMPKIN, WINMAR & GODDARD.
good point.

you reckon we'd be able to spare some quality resources for use up forward.

i was looking forward to seeing how gilbert would go, but apparently he doesn't feel "comfortable" in the forward line. :roll:

goddard would be magnificent as a forward (just as he is everywhere else) but I doubt we'll see it.
Maybe Goddard doesn't want to spend too much time up forward either :shock:


bigcarl
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 18520
Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 1:36am
Has thanked: 1847 times
Been thanked: 825 times

Re: Dear Ross FFS Leave Goddard at CHF or FF

Post: # 1052877Post bigcarl »

Dr Spaceman wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
eppo67 wrote:How many backmen do we need for God's sake.
ATM we have; BAKER, DAWSON, BLAKE, FISHER, GILBERT, GWILT, GRAM, CLARKE, DEMPSTER, GEARY,SIMPKIN, WINMAR & GODDARD.
good point.

you reckon we'd be able to spare some quality resources for use up forward.

i was looking forward to seeing how gilbert would go, but apparently he doesn't feel "comfortable" in the forward line. :roll:

goddard would be magnificent as a forward (just as he is everywhere else) but I doubt we'll see it.
Maybe Goddard doesn't want to spend too much time up forward either :shock:
since when do the lunatics run the assylum?


User avatar
Junction Oval
SS Life Member
Posts: 2867
Joined: Tue 30 Nov 2010 11:16am
Been thanked: 19 times

Post: # 1052878Post Junction Oval »

Nothing wrong with "rotating" him through the forward line. At CHF he could still have a prescence around the mid area.

He's a gun and will take pressure off Roo. Give it a try for a couple of quarters. The rest of the side's back structure won't collapse. :idea:


plugger66
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 50626
Joined: Mon 26 Feb 2007 8:15pm
Location: oakleigh

Post: # 1052879Post plugger66 »

rexy wrote:Goddard is a midfielder, best field kick in the side, a general around the stoppages and a good decision maker coming out of the back line.

Why put him at FF wher he will only touch it a dozen times a game?
Correct. Plugger could have been FF on Friday and it wouldnt have made a difference. He would be a waste there and by the way he played forward for probably 30-40 minutes on Friday and had little impact.


User avatar
Dr Spaceman
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 14102
Joined: Thu 24 Sep 2009 11:07pm
Location: Newtown Institute of Saintology
Has thanked: 104 times
Been thanked: 62 times

Re: Dear Ross FFS Leave Goddard at CHF or FF

Post: # 1052880Post Dr Spaceman »

bigcarl wrote:
Dr Spaceman wrote:
bigcarl wrote:
eppo67 wrote:How many backmen do we need for God's sake.
ATM we have; BAKER, DAWSON, BLAKE, FISHER, GILBERT, GWILT, GRAM, CLARKE, DEMPSTER, GEARY,SIMPKIN, WINMAR & GODDARD.
good point.

you reckon we'd be able to spare some quality resources for use up forward.

i was looking forward to seeing how gilbert would go, but apparently he doesn't feel "comfortable" in the forward line. :roll:

goddard would be magnificent as a forward (just as he is everywhere else) but I doubt we'll see it.
Maybe Goddard doesn't want to spend too much time up forward either :shock:
since when do the lunatics run the assylum?
And apparently Al Smith doesn't feel comfortable playing in the seniors so Ross is acceding to that request also :D


User avatar
Spinner
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8502
Joined: Sat 02 Dec 2006 3:40pm
Location: Victoria
Has thanked: 185 times
Been thanked: 133 times

Post: # 1052883Post Spinner »

SainterK wrote:
Spinner wrote:
rexy wrote:Goddard is a midfielder, best field kick in the side, a general around the stoppages and a good decision maker coming out of the back line.

Why put him at FF wher he will only touch it a dozen times a game?
Excellent post!!!!!
Against the Dockers in rd 4 he had 21 disposals, 17 kicks, 4 handballs, 9 marks, 5 goals, 2 behinds, 3 tackles, 6 inside 50's, 1 assist.
I dont understand the relevance of this post....

Were the statistics for all Goddards other 140 odd games unavailable?


User avatar
degruch
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8948
Joined: Mon 19 May 2008 4:29pm
Location: Croydonia
Has thanked: 146 times
Been thanked: 237 times

Re: Dear Ross FFS Leave Goddard at CHF or FF

Post: # 1052884Post degruch »

bigcarl wrote:since when do the lunatics run the assylum?
Correct. Ross, please ignore this thread. :wink:


Post Reply