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saint tash
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saint tash » Thu 04 Aug 2011 8:50pm
And yes I know we r over it.....
I know some might get a laugh.....
Shite Mike at his shiteful best.....
"I am of the opinion he is a better player now than he was when he shared the best-and-fairest at St Kilda with Steven Baker in 2005.
What is beyond dispute is that he is much better than the Saints thought when they were happy to see him go after the 2009 season - for nothing at 25 years of age."
Full article below....
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6107687397
Oh when the saints go charging in!
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whiskers3614 » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:03pm
May well be right.Maybe Ross Lyon's game plan is based more on robotic adherence to structure's than Malthouse's.In my opinion Ball,Kozi and NDS (prior to this season) have/had never performed to their GT standards with RL.Was it them or their ability to adapt to his gameplan?On the flip side his game plan seems to enhanced the standing of several lesser lights,Is his game plan Socialist (dragging haves down,lifting have nots up)?
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Spinner » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:03pm
Yeah definitely better than 2005 when he was AA ruck rover.
Hate Mike Sheahan. Never any substance in his opinion, just jumps on what's hot right now.
Wonder if he will state he has family links with the Ball family.
asaint
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asaint » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:10pm
The thing I will never get over is how he ended up at C'wood. Why didn't Melb or Essendon pick him up? Too scared of C'wood? There can be no other explanation. Things may be better at Melb if they had.
And another thing...he left us,turned his back on a 3year deal for no more money. Why does everyone go on that we did not want him? He is a lowlife traitor, a liar, hope the Karma trains hits him soon.
saint tash
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saint tash » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:12pm
It better bloody well be soon asaint as they r quickly heading to another flag if something doesn't go pear shaped in the mean time.
Oh when the saints go charging in!
plugger66
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plugger66 » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:16pm
A good way to stop baiting would be to put this in the opposition forum where it belongs. What a lot of crap.
saint tash
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saint tash » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:17pm
plugger66 wrote: A good way to stop baiting would be to put this in the opposition forum where it belongs. What a lot of crap.
Sorry plugger my bad. Just thought some would have found it interesting.
U r right though.
Oh when the saints go charging in!
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Bowey Boy » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:17pm
Yes, we were happy to see him go for nothing !!
er..not...we just did not submit to the bully boy tactics of Eddie (don't poach players under contract) McGuire when they offered a s*** pick.
Collingwood have a long history of getting in players ears then offering s*** for them (Nick Stevens anyone?). What goes around comes around and Ball can win as many premierships as he likes, adding his name to the greats likes Greg Williams, Allistair Lynch and Barry Hall, who sold out their mates for a buck. Trevor Barker never played a farkin final but died a far greater man or footballer than these dollar seeking pricks can even dream about.
Barry will always view himself as a dog...rightly so !!
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Leo.J » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:23pm
Why bring this shite up again?
Seriously we've got a finals campaign to think about...WHY?
marksnsparks
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marksnsparks » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:25pm
Spinner wrote: Yeah definitely better than 2005 when he was AA ruck rover.
Hate Mike Sheahan. Never any substance in his opinion, just jumps on what's hot right now.
Wonder if he will state he has family links with the Ball family.
I've stopped watching On the Couch 'cause I can't stand listening to that pr**k anymore.
So wish Robbo was on the couch instead. Sounds like he'd bea good bloke to have a beer anda smoke with.
saint tash
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saint tash » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:26pm
marksnsparks wrote: Spinner wrote: Yeah definitely better than 2005 when he was AA ruck rover.
Hate Mike Sheahan. Never any substance in his opinion, just jumps on what's hot right now.
Wonder if he will state he has family links with the Ball family.
I've stopped watching On the Couch 'cause I can't stand listening to that pr**k anymore.
So wish Robbo was on the couch instead. Sounds like he'd bea good bloke to have a beer anda smoke with.
Robbo doesn't mind smokin' the midnight oil.
Oh when the saints go charging in!
SainterK
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SainterK » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:34pm
So why doesn't anybody ever ask why Luke Ball didn't produce much from 07 onwards?
3 goals in 2009 v 14 so far in 2011?
Instead of saying he is in career best form, ask why it took so long?
plugger66
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plugger66 » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:35pm
SainterK wrote: So why doesn't anybody ever ask why Luke Ball didn't produce much from 07 onwards?
3 goals in 2009 v 14 so far in 2011?
Instead of saying he is in career best form, ask why it took so long?
Pretty sure it is being called uninjured.
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Thinline » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:42pm
plugger66 wrote: SainterK wrote: So why doesn't anybody ever ask why Luke Ball didn't produce much from 07 onwards?
3 goals in 2009 v 14 so far in 2011?
Instead of saying he is in career best form, ask why it took so long?
Pretty sure it is being called uninjured.
Gone from Misson to whoever does the same thing at the Pies and looks different and is different. Chronic ailments are now, it seems, not so.
How's he recovered/rehab'ed so quickly?
Motivation?
And if so, why wasn't he motivated before?
BTW I'm not insinuating anything. Just asking.
"The inches we need are everywhere around us. They're in every break in the game. Every minute, every second. On this team we fight for that inch. On this team we tear ourselves and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches that's gonna make the f***in' difference between winning and losing! Between living and dying!'
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Old Mate » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:45pm
Seriously overrated since he joined the Pies. Is he that much better than he was at the Saints in 08/09? Just seems like an average midfielder. I reckon 20 yr old Jack Steven has out-performed him this year. Ball in 05 was an absolute gun though. B & F in a top 4 team and won AA selection.
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bobmurray » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:46pm
saint tash wrote: plugger66 wrote: A good way to stop baiting would be to put this in the opposition forum where it belongs. What a lot of crap.
Sorry plugger my bad. Just thought some would have found it interesting.
U r right though.
Why apologise.....
it's a freakin fan forum......you are just as entitled to an opinion as "they" are
Saints looking like a bottom 4 team in 2024.
saint tash
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saint tash » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:54pm
Old Mate wrote: Seriously overrated since he joined the Pies. Is he that much better than he was at the Saints in 08/09? Just seems like an average midfielder. I reckon 20 yr old Jack Steven has out-performed him this year. Ball in 05 was an absolute gun though. B & F in a top 4 team and won AA selection.
Seriously overrated? OK.
Oh when the saints go charging in!
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SainterK » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:54pm
Thinline wrote: plugger66 wrote: SainterK wrote: So why doesn't anybody ever ask why Luke Ball didn't produce much from 07 onwards?
3 goals in 2009 v 14 so far in 2011?
Instead of saying he is in career best form, ask why it took so long?
Pretty sure it is being called uninjured.
Gone from Misson to whoever does the same thing at the Pies and looks different and is different. Chronic ailments are now, it seems, not so.
How's he recovered/rehab'ed so quickly?
Motivation?
And if so, why wasn't he motivated before?
BTW I'm not insinuating anything. Just asking.
Buttifant.
Curious, what injuries/ailments did he carry in 08,09?
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bobmurray » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:57pm
Thinline wrote: plugger66 wrote: SainterK wrote: So why doesn't anybody ever ask why Luke Ball didn't produce much from 07 onwards?
3 goals in 2009 v 14 so far in 2011?
Instead of saying he is in career best form, ask why it took so long?
Pretty sure it is being called uninjured.
Gone from Misson to whoever does the same thing at the Pies and looks different and is different. Chronic ailments are now, it seems, not so.
How's he recovered/rehab'ed so quickly?
Motivation?
And if so, why wasn't he motivated before?
BTW I'm not insinuating anything. Just asking.
Maybe David Buttifart is a better fitness guy than Misson and that's why Ball is better now than when he dumped the Saints
Saints looking like a bottom 4 team in 2024.
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plugger66 » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:57pm
SainterK wrote: Thinline wrote: plugger66 wrote: SainterK wrote: So why doesn't anybody ever ask why Luke Ball didn't produce much from 07 onwards?
3 goals in 2009 v 14 so far in 2011?
Instead of saying he is in career best form, ask why it took so long?
Pretty sure it is being called uninjured.
Gone from Misson to whoever does the same thing at the Pies and looks different and is different. Chronic ailments are now, it seems, not so.
How's he recovered/rehab'ed so quickly?
Motivation?
And if so, why wasn't he motivated before?
BTW I'm not insinuating anything. Just asking.
Buttifant.
Curious, what injuries/ailments did he carry in 08,09?
Maybe he wasnt trying. It makes sense.
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Old Mate » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:58pm
Thinline wrote: plugger66 wrote: SainterK wrote: So why doesn't anybody ever ask why Luke Ball didn't produce much from 07 onwards?
3 goals in 2009 v 14 so far in 2011?
Instead of saying he is in career best form, ask why it took so long?
Pretty sure it is being called uninjured.
Gone from Misson to whoever does the same thing at the Pies and looks different and is different. Chronic ailments are now, it seems, not so.
How's he recovered/rehab'ed so quickly?
Motivation?
And if so, why wasn't he motivated before?
BTW I'm not insinuating anything. Just asking.
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SainterK » Thu 04 Aug 2011 9:59pm
plugger66 wrote: SainterK wrote: Thinline wrote: plugger66 wrote: SainterK wrote: So why doesn't anybody ever ask why Luke Ball didn't produce much from 07 onwards?
3 goals in 2009 v 14 so far in 2011?
Instead of saying he is in career best form, ask why it took so long?
Pretty sure it is being called uninjured.
Gone from Misson to whoever does the same thing at the Pies and looks different and is different. Chronic ailments are now, it seems, not so.
How's he recovered/rehab'ed so quickly?
Motivation?
And if so, why wasn't he motivated before?
BTW I'm not insinuating anything. Just asking.
Buttifant.
Curious, what injuries/ailments did he carry in 08,09?
Maybe he wasnt trying. It makes sense.
Maybe.
He was dropped because the club thought he could improve.
Justified?
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plugger66 » Thu 04 Aug 2011 10:00pm
SainterK wrote: plugger66 wrote: SainterK wrote: Thinline wrote: plugger66 wrote: SainterK wrote: So why doesn't anybody ever ask why Luke Ball didn't produce much from 07 onwards?
3 goals in 2009 v 14 so far in 2011?
Instead of saying he is in career best form, ask why it took so long?
Pretty sure it is being called uninjured.
Gone from Misson to whoever does the same thing at the Pies and looks different and is different. Chronic ailments are now, it seems, not so.
How's he recovered/rehab'ed so quickly?
Motivation?
And if so, why wasn't he motivated before?
BTW I'm not insinuating anything. Just asking.
Buttifant.
Curious, what injuries/ailments did he carry in 08,09?
Maybe he wasnt trying. It makes sense.
Maybe.
He was dropped because the club thought he could improve.
Justified?
Actually sick of this.
saint tash
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saint tash » Thu 04 Aug 2011 10:01pm
Old Mate wrote: Thinline wrote: plugger66 wrote: SainterK wrote: So why doesn't anybody ever ask why Luke Ball didn't produce much from 07 onwards?
3 goals in 2009 v 14 so far in 2011?
Instead of saying he is in career best form, ask why it took so long?
Pretty sure it is being called uninjured.
Gone from Misson to whoever does the same thing at the Pies and looks different and is different. Chronic ailments are now, it seems, not so.
How's he recovered/rehab'ed so quickly?
Motivation?
And if so, why wasn't he motivated before?
BTW I'm not insinuating anything. Just asking.
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Yep that's it Old Mate. I knew that was the reason they won last year.
Gawd I'm stupid.
Oh when the saints go charging in!