Is Roo’s reign as skipper coming to an end?

[jays]

could be lenny

[Hurricane]

I still think Lenny Hayes should be captain. That man has a heart of iron! However, I would also like to see Goddard as captain as well. I really think Riewoldt should be given a rest from the captaincy, so he can concentrate on playing to his potential.

Roo's fine by me, but I'd love Lendog with the (c) next to his name.

I don't subscribe to any view that it has to be a mid or a forward.

Roo's fine by me also, however if we are to make a change there wouldn't be many more deserving than Sam Fisher.

That is a very intresting suggestion and I agree 100%. I would be all for Sam Fisher as captain next year.

BANG BANG

[SainterK]

Can I ask a simple question, why don't people think BJ would be a good captain?

I just don't get it....

[Dr Spaceman]

Can I ask a simple question, why don't people think BJ would be a good captain?

I just don't get it....

Well I do think BJ would make a good captain. 

However if Roo steps down I'd be looking at Fisher first. He certainly ticks all the boxes in terms of being courageous, consistent, resilient etc.

The other thing is this. GWS are likely to throw a ridiculous amount of cash at BJ. If that's just too tempting for him he's likely to walk whether he's our captain or not. And having lost our coach at the end of 2011 I'd hate to lose our skipper at the end of 2012.

Make him Captain as a reward for staying, not as a bribe to stop him going.

[defacto]

Can I ask a simple question, why don't people think BJ would be a good captain?

I just don't get it....

Well I do think BJ would make a good captain. 

However if Roo steps down I'd be looking at Fisher first. He certainly ticks all the boxes in terms of being courageous, consistent, resilient etc.

The other thing is this. GWS are likely to throw a ridiculous amount of cash at BJ. If that's just too tempting for him he's likely to walk whether he's our captain or not. And having lost our coach at the end of 2011 I'd hate to lose our skipper at the end of 2012.

Make him Captain as a reward for staying, not as a bribe to stop him going.

fisher maybe a great player but he's not a great leader. you only have to read the witness statements in the lovett case to work that one out.

[BigMart]

Very harsh judges....

How many players in the AFL run harder than NR

How many are as courageous as NR

How many have performed at an elite level as long as NR....2002-2010 5*B&F

Captain during two real premiership tilts...where he was largely responsible for being there...

[lendog heaven]

I still think Lenny Hayes should be captain. That man has a heart of iron! However, I would also like to see Goddard as captain as well. I really think Riewoldt should be given a rest from the captaincy, so he can concentrate on playing to his potential.

Roo's fine by me, but I'd love Lendog with the (c) next to his name.

I don't subscribe to any view that it has to be a mid or a forward.

Roo's fine by me also, however if we are to make a change there wouldn't be many more deserving than Sam Fisher.

That is a very intresting suggestion and I agree 100%. I would be all for Sam Fisher as captain next year.

don't reckon Sam is all that accomplished when it comes to media - comes across as quite shy (although he seems to fire up in the Twittersphere!)

[swarta]

i love Roo and he is a brilliant captain, but BJ is a born winner and i think having him as might help push us towards a more winning culture that doesn't let up, something that i feel we have lacked at stages. BJ doesn't let up and cries when he looses, we need to instil this type of culture into our younger players. Roo doesn't give up either, but on GF performances it leans towards BJ. It would also be a good incentive to stay as he mentioned earlier in the year that he wants captaincy

[SainterK]

Very harsh judges....

How many players in the AFL run harder than NR

How many are as courageous as NR

How many have performed at an elite level as long as NR....2002-2010 5*B&F

Captain during two real premiership tilts...where he was largely responsible for being there...

Does thinking someone else has blossomed into a really good candidate for captain equate to being harsh?

Doc. I love Fishers consistency, how he made something of himself even after being quite a late pickup in the draft, how he always helps his teammates and it quite the on field leader.

I agree with others though, I just don't know if the media stuff comes easy to him?

[Teflon]

Very harsh judges....

How many players in the AFL run harder than NR

How many are as courageous as NR

How many have performed at an elite level as long as NR....2002-2010 5*B&F

Captain during two real premiership tilts...where he was largely responsible for being there...

What of that will change if hes not captain????????

FWIW I too dont believe Riewoldt is a natural leader.......he inspires others but so too did Harvey and he also isnt what I term a natural leader.

I think a Captain has to be more comanding of effort and respect for the club and Goddard has that "streak" in him that will drag others with him IMO.

Sure, he has to be careful not to be another Buckley, but as he matures I reckon he'll temper that and learn.

Hayes is right now THE most natural leader we have.............but how long term??

[asiu]

Bj.
Lock him in for 3 years.

Lets get a bit agro/passionate about it.
Take what's ours.

[saintnick12]

Very harsh judges....

How many players in the AFL run harder than NR

How many are as courageous as NR

How many have performed at an elite level as long as NR....2002-2010 5*B&F

Captain during two real premiership tilts...where he was largely responsible for being there...

+1

I believe he is judged very harshly, with many of our own fans seemingly being "over" him. However, I believe he still has much to offer in the role and is still our best choice as captain.

I'm a huge BJ fan too and think he will be a great captain....one day.....
just don't think it should be this year.

Ultimately the coaches and the board will make that decision, and whoever they choose will have my support.

[skeptic]

Curiously,
lets say no to Riewoldt, BJ and Hayes

Is there anyone else?

[SainterK]

Bj.
Lock him in for 3 years.

Lets get a bit agro/passionate about it.
Take what's ours.

Exactly.

I don't see the 'come follow me' agro as a bad thing.

Why play nice?

[Scollop]

doubler

[Scollop]

Very harsh judges....

How many players in the AFL run harder than NR

How many are as courageous as NR

How many have performed at an elite level as long as NR....2002-2010 5*B&F

Captain during two real premiership tilts...where he was largely responsible for being there...

What of that will change if hes not captain????????

FWIW I too dont believe Riewoldt is a natural leader.......he inspires others but so too did Harvey and he also isnt what I term a natural leader.

I think a Captain has to be more comanding of effort and respect for the club and Goddard has that "streak" in him that will drag others with him IMO.

Sure, he has to be careful not to be another Buckley, but as he matures I reckon he'll temper that and learn.

Hayes is right now THE most natural leader we have.............but how long term??

I think with Hayes he learnt on the job when he was in fact our sole captain under GT. Roo also had to learn to be a leader under GT when he was annointed as captain at a relatively younger age than Lenny. BJ needs to show a bit more maturity and discipline on field and he is a great candidate for captain in 2013.

Give BJ lots of opportunities to lead the side on field in 2012, and sound him out whether the captaincy is something he strives for. In other words, let him get the taste for it. Let him captain the club in Roo's absence. Next year could be Roo's last year as captain and I think I like all the arguments for BJ becoming our captain, and I agree it could help secure BJ longterm if this is what he wants.

[Spinner]

If they don't do it now, you'd think he'll have to captain until he retires else it would get even more awkward to remove it?

I thought it should of been done end of 2010, but with Watters coming on board, there is still a window to change it up.

BJ is ready IMO, surprised so many aren't at least curious to see how he'd go as captain, seriously...not even a little bit curious?

As Roo said, I don't expect him to change his leadership around the club, but I reckon it will impact his match day pressure enormously.

I am curious to see how Raph would go as captain. Maybe he should get it to see how he responds. By the way if the match day pressure is enormous why give it to BJ. It may effect his game. I havent seen it effect Rooy. What I did see this year was a guy struggling with injury.

I have.

Last year.

You appear to struggle with the fact that not everyone has an opinion the same as yours?

I'm more curious to see if BJ can put in sustained performances over more than a 2 year period. As this year he was tagged and deviated from his previous elite output.

BTW Roo has done it for 10 years. IMO it's a simple view to think the captaincy would affect him at 28yo and not as a younger more inexperienced on.


It also surprises me how many people associate attitudes and thoughts based solely on body language on the sporting field.

[Con Gorozidis]

Can I ask a simple question, why don't people think BJ would be a good captain?

I just don't get it....

BJ is my first choice and Dempster is my second choice.

And yes Im dead serious abour Dempster. Team first attitude .
Would be similar to Ling or Maxwell IMHO.
Surely we have past under 10s where u pick the star player as captain?

[clarky449]

Im not sure who should be captain, i would like to be in close to the team and see who possess the qualities.

[asiu]

Indeed. Why play nice.
I love his 'cop this' passion.

[Dr Spaceman]

Indeed. Why play nice.
I love his 'cop this' passion.

To quote me:

GWS are likely to throw a ridiculous amount of cash at BJ. If that's just too tempting for him he's likely to walk whether he's our captain or not. And having lost our coach at the end of 2011 I'd hate to lose our skipper at the end of 2012.

Make him Captain as a reward for staying, not as a bribe to stop him going.

No probs with BJ as Captain, just don't want to go through the whole process again in 12 months time.

[Wrote for Luck]

would love to see the following

2012:
Captain: Lenny
Vice Captain: BJ

2013:
Captain: BJ
Vice Captain: Dal Santo

Yes

[asiu]

Yea , gotta lock him in.
Then say .... you've got three years , go hard bloke , and we'll support you 100 %.

[Wrote for Luck]

a further thought; devil's advocate could argue Nick has captained badly this year...

should never have held that press conference
should never have stated us against them
should never have allowed that photo to be taken or surface
should never have commented about his leanings at election time
should never have let himself play with such a bad knee
should never drop your head on the football field as captain

[saintspremiers]

They could give it to Zac.

To$$ Lyin likes the way you are thinking!