Steven Baker

zebraman · Post: # 1179625Post **zebraman** » Wed 30 Nov 2011 7:49pm

Not sure if it's been posted already...if it has and I missed it...apologies for old news

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/f ... 6210416936

saintbrat · Post: # 1179654Post **saintbrat** » Wed 30 Nov 2011 9:17pm

apart from bakes announcing on twitter and facebook last night- not anywhere else
do you know if Zebra's made him any offers?

Spinner · Post: # 1179679Post **Spinner** » Thu 01 Dec 2011 12:46am

Some good coin out that way with Greenvale the other. My side of town.

I have no idea of VFL wages... But Scott Lucas was on $40k straight up in 2010. Is that more attractive than VFL?

plugger66 · Post: # 1179687Post **plugger66** » Thu 01 Dec 2011 7:17am

Spinner wrote:Some good coin out that way with Greenvale the other. My side of town.

I have no idea of VFL wages... But Scott Lucas was on $40k straight up in 2010. Is that more attractive than VFL?

Yes very much so. Most players would be getting less than $500 a game i reckon. Very good players may get 30k a year but not a hell of a lot.

stkildathunda · Thu 01 Dec 2011 7:31am

I still dont understand how he is allowed to play local footy. Isnt there a rule that if you've been suspeded for X amount games your banned?? Unless thats been scrapped or somehow he doesnt hit it!! (which i highly doubt)

SaintJohn1956 · Thu 01 Dec 2011 8:19am

Yes - I think you are right. From memory anyone suspended for a minimum of 16 games was ineligible to play. Not saying it is right but I think that is the rule. Bakes would be well and truly over that limit.

saintspremiers · Thu 01 Dec 2011 9:42am

plugger66 wrote:
Spinner wrote:Some good coin out that way with Greenvale the other. My side of town.

I have no idea of VFL wages... But Scott Lucas was on $40k straight up in 2010. Is that more attractive than VFL?
Yes very much so. Most players would be getting less than $500 a game i reckon. Very good players may get 30k a year but not a hell of a lot.

It's crazy that suburban comps can get better players than the VFL.

Something is wrong. The VFL is the reserves comp, but could do with the odd has been AFL player (ie Bakes) to help with crowds/revenue.

ThePunter · Post: # 1179707Post **ThePunter** » Thu 01 Dec 2011 9:46am

The amount of training pretty much precludes older players from playin in the VFL, because they still need to get an income outside of footy. There is no incentive for a guy like Baker to play VFL.

As far as I know, Baker would have to be approved by the league, and may have to attend a hearing. But the ban is not automatic. Brodie Holland was a well known victim of this rule, as the EDFL wanted to prevent him from playing when he left Collingwood to take up a playing coach role with one of their clubs.

St. Luke · Post: # 1179708Post **St. Luke** » Thu 01 Dec 2011 9:52am

I thought it was a shame the Giants didn't take a closer look at him. he's still very mobile and as tough as nails. His exit from the Saints was quite appalling considering his input over all these years. Best of luck Bakes!

St. Luke · Post: # 1179709Post **St. Luke** » Thu 01 Dec 2011 9:54am

ThePunter wrote:The amount of training pretty much precludes older players from playin in the VFL, because they still need to get an income outside of footy. There is no incentive for a guy like Baker to play VFL.

As far as I know, Baker would have to be approved by the league, and may have to attend a hearing. But the ban is not automatic. Brodie Holland was a well known victim of this rule, as the EDFL wanted to prevent him from playing when he left Collingwood to take up a playing coach role with one of their clubs.

I forgot about that.

Is he not permitted to join another club because of his "record"? Or because he was retired? I now faintly remember there was some issues with him and any chance of a career at another club.

Stephen_Powell · Thu 01 Dec 2011 10:53am

From what ive heard elsewhere, he signed for $1,500 per game plus a 10k signing on fee. Linking up with his former housemate Brooksy.

matrix · Post: # 1179720Post **matrix** » Thu 01 Dec 2011 11:06am

blimey
1500 quid a game is alright huh

to run around in a league he should really do very very well in

saintspremiers · Thu 01 Dec 2011 3:35pm

matrix wrote:blimey
1500 quid a game is alright huh
to run around in a league he should really do very very well in

So about 30K per year only. Chicken Shyte compared to what he was earning.

clarky449 · Post: # 1179779Post **clarky449** » Thu 01 Dec 2011 6:35pm

saintspremiers wrote:
matrix wrote:blimey
1500 quid a game is alright huh
to run around in a league he should really do very very well in
So about 30K per year only. Chicken Shyte compared to what he was earning.

Yeah it is but he aint playing at the top level anymore.

jays · Post: # 1179780Post **jays** » Thu 01 Dec 2011 6:38pm

good on him

ozrulestrace · Thu 01 Dec 2011 6:58pm

saintspremiers wrote:
matrix wrote:blimey
1500 quid a game is alright huh
to run around in a league he should really do very very well in
So about 30K per year only. Chicken Shyte compared to what he was earning.

That maybe so, but hasn't Bakes been quite savvy working away in the background developing a career in bilding and wisely investing his money, so he wouldn't have to rely on footy for his income.

saintbrat · Post: # 1179805Post **saintbrat** » Thu 01 Dec 2011 8:18pm

http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page ... sID=114138

has some info on the de registration and tribunal history issue.

I would very much assume they would check, especially if paying him that amount..

I trust he's ok- I note he isn't at the madden medal tonight.

clarky449 · Fri 02 Dec 2011 12:39am

Good on him and what a team to be joining. Anyone know of any other ex saints playing anywhere?

The Redeemer · Fri 02 Dec 2011 6:28am

St. Luke wrote:I thought it was a shame the Giants didn't take a closer look at him. he's still very mobile and as tough as nails. His exit from the Saints was quite appalling considering his input over all these years. Best of luck Bakes!

Bakes was slow, struggled to kick and never wanted to kick so I think this year was his last for a reason. He is not the first to have these issues in the twilight of a career and he will not be the last.

The Giants do not need him.

McQ is training with the Suns.......

Do they need a great 18th man on the field to play the customary run around the forward half tagging nobody and doing nothing role?

I would have thought not.

ace · Post: # 1180184Post **ace** » Sat 03 Dec 2011 3:48pm

ozrulestrace wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:
matrix wrote:blimey
1500 quid a game is alright huh
to run around in a league he should really do very very well in
So about 30K per year only. Chicken Shyte compared to what he was earning.
That maybe so, but hasn't Bakes been quite savvy working away in the background developing a career in bilding and wisely investing his money, so he wouldn't have to rely on footy for his income.

Maybe he got investment advice from Ross Lyon.

ozrulestrace · Sat 03 Dec 2011 4:21pm

ace wrote:
ozrulestrace wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:
matrix wrote:blimey
1500 quid a game is alright huh
to run around in a league he should really do very very well in
So about 30K per year only. Chicken Shyte compared to what he was earning.
That maybe so, but hasn't Bakes been quite savvy working away in the background developing a career in bilding and wisely investing his money, so he wouldn't have to rely on footy for his income.
Maybe he got investment advice from Ross Lyon.

I hope not, Ross seems to have followed gambling advice rather than take investment advice.

Thinline · Post: # 1180273Post **Thinline** » Sat 03 Dec 2011 9:40pm

The Redeemer wrote:
St. Luke wrote:I thought it was a shame the Giants didn't take a closer look at him. he's still very mobile and as tough as nails. His exit from the Saints was quite appalling considering his input over all these years. Best of luck Bakes!
Bakes was slow, struggled to kick and never wanted to kick so I think this year was his last for a reason. He is not the first to have these issues in the twilight of a career and he will not be the last.

The Giants do not need him.

McQ is training with the Suns.......

Do they need a great 18th man on the field to play the customary run around the forward half tagging nobody and doing nothing role?

I would have thought not.

Suns turfed Liddy and shunted Dan Harris so Mini's every chance of getting a gig. They can afford it.

BigMart · Post: # 1180512Post **BigMart** » Sun 04 Dec 2011 7:36pm

Brooks 17 games, in the best 12 times and a number of BOG's.....in 2011....

Shame he did not succeed, you would not find a more skilled 198cm easily, he had great hands, good touch, a beautiful kick.....and NO idea....or NO confidence moreso....

bit lazy too, was Barry

Mackaysaint · Sun 04 Dec 2011 10:27pm

No killer instict, that boy. Was just too nice.

Con Gorozidis · Mon 05 Dec 2011 6:39pm

Still reckon Bakes and max deserved proper send-offs.
Lyon was trying to hard to be prove how he "didnt let sentiment shape his decisions".
There is always room for a little bit of sentiment in footy.

Speaking of Bakes - now he has gone - who is the new enforcer at the Saints? Are we too nice?