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Can anyone remind me with any level of authority who was competing for the Saints coaching job prior to the appointment of Lyon?

Who were the frontrunners?


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Thinline wrote:Can anyone remind me with any level of authority who was competing for the Saints coaching job prior to the appointment of Lyon?

Who were the frontrunners?
I'm pretty certain the front runners in the media were Longmire, McKenna and Chris Bond. I think they were the other short-listed candidates....then Lyon bobbed up and stole the bikkies


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saintlee wrote:
Thinline wrote:Can anyone remind me with any level of authority who was competing for the Saints coaching job prior to the appointment of Lyon?

Who were the frontrunners?
I'm pretty certain the front runners in the media were Longmire, McKenna and Chris Bond. I think they were the other short-listed candidates....then Lyon bobbed up and stole the bikkies
Longmire was a very short favourite for the job (although his nickname may suggest he is anything but short) :wink:


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I believe there was also a point at which they were looking seriously at Daryn Cresswell, but then I think he got accused of some sort of serious crime (rape?).


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Re: Coach appointment question...

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IluvHarvey wrote:
saintlee wrote:
Thinline wrote:Can anyone remind me with any level of authority who was competing for the Saints coaching job prior to the appointment of Lyon?

Who were the frontrunners?
I'm pretty certain the front runners in the media were Longmire, McKenna and Chris Bond. I think they were the other short-listed candidates....then Lyon bobbed up and stole the bikkies
Longmire was a very short favourite for the job (although his nickname may suggest he is anything but short) :wink:
thats how I remember it, Saints really wanted him (as did a few other clubs) but when Roos retired Longmire became the preferred front runner for the swans job.


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sunsaint wrote:
IluvHarvey wrote:
saintlee wrote:
Thinline wrote:Can anyone remind me with any level of authority who was competing for the Saints coaching job prior to the appointment of Lyon?

Who were the frontrunners?
I'm pretty certain the front runners in the media were Longmire, McKenna and Chris Bond. I think they were the other short-listed candidates....then Lyon bobbed up and stole the bikkies
Longmire was a very short favourite for the job (although his nickname may suggest he is anything but short) :wink:
thats how I remember it, Saints really wanted him (as did a few other clubs) but when Roos retired Longmire became the preferred front runner for the swans job.
Im pretty sure we rejected Longmire. I dont think he rejected us. Roos wasnt leaving at that stage.


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meher baba wrote:I believe there was also a point at which they were looking seriously at Daryn Cresswell, but then I think he got accused of some sort of serious crime (rape?).
fraud or bad checks I believe, def not rape



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ausfatcat wrote:
meher baba wrote:I believe there was also a point at which they were looking seriously at Daryn Cresswell, but then I think he got accused of some sort of serious crime (rape?).
fraud or bad checks I believe, def not rape



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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/former ... 5747087983
He did have a sexual assault complaint against him at one stage but I think nothing eventuated from it. He DID go to Jail for Fraud at one stage.


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plugger66 wrote:
sunsaint wrote:
IluvHarvey wrote:
saintlee wrote:
Thinline wrote:Can anyone remind me with any level of authority who was competing for the Saints coaching job prior to the appointment of Lyon?

Who were the frontrunners?
I'm pretty certain the front runners in the media were Longmire, McKenna and Chris Bond. I think they were the other short-listed candidates....then Lyon bobbed up and stole the bikkies
Longmire was a very short favourite for the job (although his nickname may suggest he is anything but short) :wink:
thats how I remember it, Saints really wanted him (as did a few other clubs) but when Roos retired Longmire became the preferred front runner for the swans job.
Im pretty sure we rejected Longmire. I dont think he rejected us. Roos wasnt leaving at that stage.
obviously Roos hadnt announced leaving at the stage, but you always got the feeling that the swans had a succession plan in mind to promote from within. The fact that Lyon was four years older would have been a factor.
I also remember OTC Butterrs nutting on about Y-gen speak as being a major factor in the new coaches role. Longmire fitted that model better than Lyon ever did.
Still maintain that all the buzz at the time was about Longmire, not Lyon.


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sunsaint wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
sunsaint wrote:
IluvHarvey wrote:
saintlee wrote:
Thinline wrote:Can anyone remind me with any level of authority who was competing for the Saints coaching job prior to the appointment of Lyon?

Who were the frontrunners?
I'm pretty certain the front runners in the media were Longmire, McKenna and Chris Bond. I think they were the other short-listed candidates....then Lyon bobbed up and stole the bikkies
Longmire was a very short favourite for the job (although his nickname may suggest he is anything but short) :wink:
thats how I remember it, Saints really wanted him (as did a few other clubs) but when Roos retired Longmire became the preferred front runner for the swans job.
Im pretty sure we rejected Longmire. I dont think he rejected us. Roos wasnt leaving at that stage.
obviously Roos hadnt announced leaving at the stage, but you always got the feeling that the swans had a succession plan in mind to promote from within. The fact that Lyon was four years older would have been a factor.
I also remember OTC Butterrs nutting on about Y-gen speak as being a major factor in the new coaches role. Longmire fitted that model better than Lyon ever did.
Still maintain that all the buzz at the time was about Longmire, not Lyon.
All the buzz was about Longmire but all I am saying is we picked RL over Longmire. Longmire definitely wanted the job.


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meher baba wrote:I believe there was also a point at which they were looking seriously at Daryn Cresswell, but then I think he got accused of some sort of serious crime (rape?).
gambling stuff wasnt it?


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Post: # 1181200Post saintbrat »

story went that late in the process Walls suggested Lyon.
Lyon spent the 24 hours before presentation with SOS and Elshaugh putting together his application-.


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Post: # 1181260Post skeptic »

After GT was sacked... it was heavily implied that Daryn Cresswel was the man the board had in mind as has already been suggested until "negative media" essentially took him out of the picture.

John Longmuire
Chris Bond
Guy McKenna
Mark Harvey

were the early mentioned names whilst despite publically declaring he wasn't interested Gary Lyon's name kept popping up again and again.

I have the vaguest recollection that Laidley's name was bandied around by the media too

Mark Harvey was ruled out after he revealed himself to be a a giant douche by demanding to be automatically shortlisted


McKenna, Longmuire and Bond were reported to be the main 3

And an announcement was to be made early next week.

I remember over that final w/e whilst speculation was at it's highest... a forumite reported that a secret I/V was held at 6pm on Friday afternoon for a man named Lyon... which sent the forum spinning and Gary Lyo become the rumoured front runner.

Final order was revealed:
4. McKenna
3. Longmuire
2. Bond - apparently relly interview well
1. Ross Lyon


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Post: # 1181268Post bobmurray »

And then history shows Lyon came close to winning a flag but no cigar..

Then Lyon showed himself to be a Lyin snake looking to make restitution on his bad investments by essentially selling himself to the highest, easiest bidder , whilst duping the Saints into thinking he was going to sign with them...

Hence, a big win for the Saints due to a new coaching set up, a modernised game plan ,a bigger emphasis on player development and some more of Lyin's hacks moved on....The end of an era...


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Post: # 1181270Post whiskers3614 »

Only difference between Lyon and Judas is Judas showed a modicum of remorse.


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What a great find it was. A coach that brought a great gameplan with a great attitude. Season 2009 wont be forgetton.


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clarky449 wrote:What a great find it was. A coach that brought a great gameplan with a great attitude. Season 2009 wont be forgetton.
There is no forgetton failure at the final hurdle. 2009 and 2010


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I remember there being speculation at the time that Garry Lyon could get the job, and when Ross got the job, I remember picking up the paper that morning and seeing the headline, "Lyon gets saints job," and I nearly vomited because I thought they'd hired Garry. They ended up getting the right man. Sheer rotten-bastard luck that he never delivered a flag.

BUT

the past is the past. I admire what Lyon brought to the club and forgive him for the manner in which he departed, because we have the future to look forward to, and its looking prettay, prettay, prettay good I reckon


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Post: # 1181333Post onlooker »

Final order was revealed:
4. McKenna
3. Longmuire
2. Bond - apparently relly interview well
1. Ross Lyon[/quote]

Agreed these were the final candidates although I heard the former President (Rod B) on the radio approx 12 months ago who said the selection panel had McKenna as a clear second choice to Lyon.


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bobmurray wrote: Then Lyon showed himself to be a Lyin snake looking to make restitution on his bad investments by essentially selling himself to the highest, easiest bidder , whilst duping the Saints into thinking he was going to sign with them....The end of an era...
:lol: "Bad Investments" - is that what they call it these days??

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Post: # 1181355Post Life Long Saint »

sunsaint wrote:I also remember OTC Butterrs nutting on about Y-gen speak as being a major factor in the new coaches role.
I remember that interview well and I have never been more disappointed in a Saints president before or since.

He espoused the Gen-Y speak as a major reason that he got rid of GT. I remember thinking to myself that GT has 8 kids. If anyone can speak Gen-Y then it is him.

I tuned into that show looking for a genuine reason as to why they'd sacked a coach with a very good record and relationship with the players. All I got was spin.


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SENsaintsational wrote:
bobmurray wrote: Then Lyon showed himself to be a Lyin snake looking to make restitution on his bad investments by essentially selling himself to the highest, easiest bidder , whilst duping the Saints into thinking he was going to sign with them....The end of an era...
:lol: "Bad Investments" - is that what they call it these days??

"Sorry Mrs SEN, I made a bad investment on Cup Day!" - regards Mr SEN

:lol:
Ask the Lyin snake...he's the one who said he invested his money in crap and lost his nest egg, he's the one who said he needed to show his family he wasn't a knob, that he could con some club into reintroducing him to wealth and prosperity...

Come in Freo.... :roll:


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Bad investments indeed:LOVETT~


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Post: # 1181415Post ace »

whiskers3614 wrote:Only difference between Lyon and Judas is Judas showed a modicum of remorse.
I think Lyon will get paid a lot more, certainly more than thirty pieces of silver.


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