Scollop wrote:saintsRrising wrote:Difference between GT and RL.
GT got within a bee's dick of getting into a GF. Against the Power past their peak. IMO with a stronger list.
RL got within a bee's dick of winning TWO GF's. Against quite possibly the best team ever in the cats at the height of their powers, and against the Pies in a year where they were exceptional. IMO with a weaker list.
OooooooooohhhhhhhhKaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy...allow me please to point out the facts re what happened to the Cats team prior to GT's sacking and what happened to them after GT's sacking. YES!!! I'm talking about Geelong and their coach - Bomber Thompson. The Cats got within a bee's dick of eliminating the Swans in the finals series in 2005, and we all know who went on to win the flag in that year...I think it was after the following year that the Cats went within a bee's dick of actually eliminating Bomber Thompson...So there we have it!!! Was Bomber Thompson good enough or wasn't he in 2006? Could he change and would he change and could he lead and motivate and inspire his team to greatness? Did he have their respect and their trust and was he able to learn and grow as a coach?
I wonder what would've happened to the Geelong team if they'd gotten rid of Bomber after their famous marathon end of year review in 2006?? Would the Cats have had the success that they did in 07 and 09??? Would a coaches sacking have unsettled the 'developing' and as yet unsuccesful Cats???
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Your facts....?? If you are going to point them out please do so in full.
Re-read again what I have already written.
However in fuller detail now as your facts are scant.
The GFC carried out a review of their football department and all things pertaining to it.
One outcome of this that I posted earlier in this thread was that the GFC narrowed Bombers role down to that of being a coach and removed other responsibilities that got in his way from being a fully effective coach.
Balme was brought in as part of the Football Department restructure. I saw Bomber interviewed about this afterwards and he discussed how initially he was furious and not at all happy, but that in hindsight it was exactly what was needed and allowed him to coach better.
Your Question: Was Bomber Thompson good enough or wasn't he in 2006? Well according to the GFC, the answer was in that in the Job Description he had that , the GFC clearly considered it was holding their club back. The JD needed changing. This was done.
Contrast this with GT where a similar restructure of the football club was muted by the Board after an extensive review by outside consultants. GT blocked the restructure for a year, and has in every utterance I have seen has maintained that his way was correct. His resistance was core to his being quite rightly sacked.
If Bomber had acted like GT he too would have been sacked. Instead he accepted the changes and became a premiership coach. Who knows, if GT's ego had not been so huge he may have too.
The further restructure we have seen since mid-year with the appointment of Pelchen and a raft of others just continues this process.
The penny needs to drop that it is not really a Lyon vs GT discussion.
It is a discussion of two radically different philosophies on how an AFL Football Department should function. The role of a head coach is just a subset of this.
IMO BOTH the GFC and the StKFC did the right thing in restructuring their fotoball departaments.
Bomber accepted it, GT did not...so GT had to go.
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