Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators
Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
Last time these sides met
Round 3 this year
Saints def Dogs 103-40
Highest Disposals: Hayes 30
Highest Goals: Milne 3
Injury concerns: BJ, Roo (both head knocks and knees) Higgins (hamstring)
Surprisingly a few outs since last time even though not long ago, outs include: Stanley, Polo, Cripps, Newnes, Milera
Potential ins: Ray, Wilkes, Clarke, Peake, Milera
I'd like to see Dunell start this week, looked dangerous. Schnieders ability to run out games worries me, still cramps most games late. Maybe he could have a go at being Sub?
Easy as far as tagging goes:
Jones to Griffin
Picken to Dal
Rest of possible potential matchups:
Simpkin v Cordy
Hayes v Boyd
Dempster v Gia
BJ v Murphy is one I'd like to see this week
Should account for the Dogs, though competitive early v Blues, Higgins was the danger guy I thought and the game turned when he went off. From memory pretty sure they won most of the stats last time, but their forward line just isn't functioning.
Lenny won't be that quiet again, he really still is the driving force in the midfield. Dal surely couldn't only have the two clearances again. They should lift this week, think the veteran bodies perhaps felt the two interstaters in a row.
Round 3 this year
Saints def Dogs 103-40
Highest Disposals: Hayes 30
Highest Goals: Milne 3
Injury concerns: BJ, Roo (both head knocks and knees) Higgins (hamstring)
Surprisingly a few outs since last time even though not long ago, outs include: Stanley, Polo, Cripps, Newnes, Milera
Potential ins: Ray, Wilkes, Clarke, Peake, Milera
I'd like to see Dunell start this week, looked dangerous. Schnieders ability to run out games worries me, still cramps most games late. Maybe he could have a go at being Sub?
Easy as far as tagging goes:
Jones to Griffin
Picken to Dal
Rest of possible potential matchups:
Simpkin v Cordy
Hayes v Boyd
Dempster v Gia
BJ v Murphy is one I'd like to see this week
Should account for the Dogs, though competitive early v Blues, Higgins was the danger guy I thought and the game turned when he went off. From memory pretty sure they won most of the stats last time, but their forward line just isn't functioning.
Lenny won't be that quiet again, he really still is the driving force in the midfield. Dal surely couldn't only have the two clearances again. They should lift this week, think the veteran bodies perhaps felt the two interstaters in a row.
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
Some appear to be implying Gram may be on the chopping block this week?
What would your changes be?
What would your changes be?
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 25303
- Joined: Tue 01 Feb 2005 4:25pm
- Location: Trump Tower
- Has thanked: 142 times
- Been thanked: 284 times
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
Footscray are rubbish. Ten goal win IMO.
i am Melbourne Skies - sometimes Blue Skies, Grey Skies, even Partly Cloudy Skies.
- desertsaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 10425
- Joined: Sun 27 Apr 2008 2:02pm
- Location: out there
- Has thanked: 189 times
- Been thanked: 713 times
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
Gram out
My grandmother in.
My grandmother in.
"The starting point of all achievement is desire. "
- saintsRrising
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 30092
- Joined: Mon 15 Mar 2004 11:07am
- Location: Melbourne
- Has thanked: 711 times
- Been thanked: 1234 times
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
Not Gram who was ok.SainterK wrote:Some appear to be implying Gram may be on the chopping block this week?
What would your changes be?
In: Ray
Out: Dunnell
Would love Stanley for Kosi....but Stanley is not available.
Siposs had a stinker, but will find the pressure less against the dogs.
Saad was sad...but has been generally good. Watters will remind him to look for handballs when appropriate.
Roo: Not sure how his knee will shape up. When we play GWS he would be about the one player I would rest.
Kosi: Minson is in great form, and that will probably keep him in to back up Minson.
Flying the World in comfort thanks to FF Points....
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 23232
- Joined: Sat 13 Mar 2004 11:44pm
- Has thanked: 739 times
- Been thanked: 1791 times
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
will win this
then lose the following week.
yaawn.
then lose the following week.
yaawn.
“Yeah….nah””
- bobmurray
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 7833
- Joined: Mon 03 Oct 2005 11:08pm
- Location: In the stand at RSEA Park.
- Has thanked: 518 times
- Been thanked: 236 times
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
Hopefully we'll win this week...you never know with this lotTeflon wrote:will win this
then lose the following week.
yaawn.
The list changes for 2025 have begun, always an interesting time for an avid supporter.
- WellardSaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8326
- Joined: Sat 26 May 2012 11:25am
- Location: Perth- the best weather in Oz, but the worst rednecks.
- Has thanked: 1889 times
- Been thanked: 878 times
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
Dogs are a rabble, no forward line. We beat the Bumbers, we will not lose against the dogs
A real Sainter will pledge allegiance to the ❤ and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
You know, I think Lenny struggles when Jones tags outside players.
Last week he struggled in the midfield first half, and it wasn't until Jones nullified Black that Lenny was able to impact the game.
Yesterday Jones played on Jetta, did a great job....
I reckon though, that the midfield struggled without his nullifying one of the inside ball winners for Sydney?
It's one of those arguments, would Jetta even get his hands on it if the Saints midfield is on top?
Last week he struggled in the midfield first half, and it wasn't until Jones nullified Black that Lenny was able to impact the game.
Yesterday Jones played on Jetta, did a great job....
I reckon though, that the midfield struggled without his nullifying one of the inside ball winners for Sydney?
It's one of those arguments, would Jetta even get his hands on it if the Saints midfield is on top?
- dragit
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 13047
- Joined: Tue 29 Jun 2010 11:56am
- Has thanked: 605 times
- Been thanked: 315 times
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
It will be punchsational on here if we lose this one.
Dogs have nothing to lose and we are coming off back to back interstate matches, I don't think it will be as easy as last time.
Shame all the youth from last time aren't up and about Stanley, Cripps, Newnes, Milera, it's exciting seeing a few new guys at once like that, particularly when we win!
Dogs have nothing to lose and we are coming off back to back interstate matches, I don't think it will be as easy as last time.
Shame all the youth from last time aren't up and about Stanley, Cripps, Newnes, Milera, it's exciting seeing a few new guys at once like that, particularly when we win!
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
has armo got some time in lieu accrued that he needs to take?defacto wrote:OUT: Gram, Dunnell, Armitage
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 18607
- Joined: Thu 11 Mar 2004 1:36am
- Has thanked: 1950 times
- Been thanked: 854 times
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
saintspremiers wrote:Footscray are rubbish. Ten goal win IMO.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. We haven't been that flash many times this season
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 6043
- Joined: Mon 21 May 2007 5:31pm
- Location: Currumbin, Quoinslairnd
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
We lost last week. We'll win this one.
30 pts.
30 pts.
"The inches we need are everywhere around us. They're in every break in the game. Every minute, every second. On this team we fight for that inch. On this team we tear ourselves and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches that's gonna make the f***in' difference between winning and losing! Between living and dying!'
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
The Dogs really are abysmal, they've only beaten North and the other 4 of the bottom 5 sides. Should be a very comfortable win
STRENGTH THROUGH LOYALTY.
''I still get really excited, and I've got the '66 thing up on the wall in a frame … You look at it and think: one day, we want to achieve that.''- Arryn Siposs
''I still get really excited, and I've got the '66 thing up on the wall in a frame … You look at it and think: one day, we want to achieve that.''- Arryn Siposs
- SaintPav
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 19002
- Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
- Location: Alma Road
- Has thanked: 1593 times
- Been thanked: 2000 times
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
Saints by 80 points.
Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
Referring to the changes since last meeting, what has happened to Cripps? Was a certain starter for much of the first 3 months or so of the year, and has since disappeared... Playing VFL, injured??
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
Wouldn't drop Armitage.. Best player in the comp at the docklands. I wouldn't change the side.
- saintbrat
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 44575
- Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 4:11pm
- Location: saints zone
- Has thanked: 6 times
- Been thanked: 188 times
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
Grammy Preparing for his 150th Saints game
StReNgTh ThRoUgH LoYaLtY
Rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly..!!
MEMBERSHIP 2014 31,134 Membership 2015 32,746 MEMBERSHIP 2016 - 38,101
MEMBERSHIP 2017 42,095 , Membership 2018 46,998
MEMBERSHIP 2019 43,106 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php? ... 9#p1816890
MEMBERSHIP 2020 48,588 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100107
Rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly..!!
MEMBERSHIP 2014 31,134 Membership 2015 32,746 MEMBERSHIP 2016 - 38,101
MEMBERSHIP 2017 42,095 , Membership 2018 46,998
MEMBERSHIP 2019 43,106 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php? ... 9#p1816890
MEMBERSHIP 2020 48,588 http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=100107
- magnifisaint
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 8069
- Joined: Sun 02 May 2004 2:52am
- Has thanked: 226 times
- Been thanked: 602 times
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
The Dogs are history. No one seems to care though
Posting 20 years of holey crap!
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx
The phrase "honourable loss" is often seen as a cop-out but both these teams had fair claims to taking pride in their performances despite defeats last week.
The Bulldogs led an undermanned Carlton for much of their game before the Blues ran over the top of them in the last quarter while it was a similar tale for St Kilda against the top of the table Sydney Swans last week.
The Saints still have much to fight for this season as a finals position is still up for grabs. The Bulldogs on the other hand are out of the race but still better than the competition's cellar dwellers Melbourne, GWS and Gold Coast. They have little else but pride to play for but that is not to suggest they will not take it up to the Saints this week.
THE FOUR POINTS
ST KILDA
1. The Saints were smashed in the ruck last week, losing the hit-outs 61-36 and the discrepancy probably would have been much higher but for Shane Mumford's injury. Ben McEvoy has been holding the fort but has had little help since Rhys Stanley has been out injured.
2. Brendon Goddard's form has been a little up and down this season but as the old saying goes, form is temporary and class is permanent. Goddard doesn't place a great emphasis on milestone games but he will take pride in a big performance in his 200th match this week. A dominant performance against the lowly Bulldogs will be firmly on his mind.
3. Nick Riewoldt seemed out of sorts at times against the Swans last week, and appeared to be hampered by injury. The St Kilda captain has an amazing resilience and a high pain threshold but as the season wears on, his body has more and more to cope with. The Saints' campaign from here depends greatly on Riewoldt and his form is paramount to any success his team will have.
4. St Kilda has an interesting run home with games against Collingwood, Geelong and Carlton interspersed with the Bulldogs, Melbourne and GWS. This is one of the must-win games and a defeat would be an enormous setback in such a competitive field for those last two finals spots.
WESTERN BULLDOGS
1. Another flying start would be handy. In the opening three minutes against Carlton last week, the Bulldogs kicked the first two goals and didn’t even let the Blues touch the ball. A similarly ferocious approach will be required to unsettle the Saints, who also lost on the weekend after making a strong start.
2. The Bulldogs achieved a better spread of contributors in the midfield against Carlton. Skipper Matthew Boyd usually supplies the most possessions - and often by a considerable margin - but the Dogs struck a better balance against the Blues, with Boyd (25) eclipsed by four teammates - Ryan Griffen (28), Tom Liberatore (28), Daniel Cross (26) and Mitch Wallis (26).
3. The Bulldogs failed to capitalise on their ruck dominance against the Blues, who were without a recognised ruckman. Will Minson amassed 54 of the Dogs' 59 hit-outs, while Carlton had just 19, but he Dogs had just five more clearances.
4. The goal-starved Bulldogs could ill-afford to lose sharpshooter Shaun Higgins with a hamstring injury, but at least Luke Dahlhaus appears to have found his goalkicking shoes again. Before the Blues clash the dreadlocked Dog had managed just 9.16, so a haul of 4.1 was a terrific return.
AFL.com.au verdict: St Kilda by 29 points
The phrase "honourable loss" is often seen as a cop-out but both these teams had fair claims to taking pride in their performances despite defeats last week.
The Bulldogs led an undermanned Carlton for much of their game before the Blues ran over the top of them in the last quarter while it was a similar tale for St Kilda against the top of the table Sydney Swans last week.
The Saints still have much to fight for this season as a finals position is still up for grabs. The Bulldogs on the other hand are out of the race but still better than the competition's cellar dwellers Melbourne, GWS and Gold Coast. They have little else but pride to play for but that is not to suggest they will not take it up to the Saints this week.
THE FOUR POINTS
ST KILDA
1. The Saints were smashed in the ruck last week, losing the hit-outs 61-36 and the discrepancy probably would have been much higher but for Shane Mumford's injury. Ben McEvoy has been holding the fort but has had little help since Rhys Stanley has been out injured.
2. Brendon Goddard's form has been a little up and down this season but as the old saying goes, form is temporary and class is permanent. Goddard doesn't place a great emphasis on milestone games but he will take pride in a big performance in his 200th match this week. A dominant performance against the lowly Bulldogs will be firmly on his mind.
3. Nick Riewoldt seemed out of sorts at times against the Swans last week, and appeared to be hampered by injury. The St Kilda captain has an amazing resilience and a high pain threshold but as the season wears on, his body has more and more to cope with. The Saints' campaign from here depends greatly on Riewoldt and his form is paramount to any success his team will have.
4. St Kilda has an interesting run home with games against Collingwood, Geelong and Carlton interspersed with the Bulldogs, Melbourne and GWS. This is one of the must-win games and a defeat would be an enormous setback in such a competitive field for those last two finals spots.
WESTERN BULLDOGS
1. Another flying start would be handy. In the opening three minutes against Carlton last week, the Bulldogs kicked the first two goals and didn’t even let the Blues touch the ball. A similarly ferocious approach will be required to unsettle the Saints, who also lost on the weekend after making a strong start.
2. The Bulldogs achieved a better spread of contributors in the midfield against Carlton. Skipper Matthew Boyd usually supplies the most possessions - and often by a considerable margin - but the Dogs struck a better balance against the Blues, with Boyd (25) eclipsed by four teammates - Ryan Griffen (28), Tom Liberatore (28), Daniel Cross (26) and Mitch Wallis (26).
3. The Bulldogs failed to capitalise on their ruck dominance against the Blues, who were without a recognised ruckman. Will Minson amassed 54 of the Dogs' 59 hit-outs, while Carlton had just 19, but he Dogs had just five more clearances.
4. The goal-starved Bulldogs could ill-afford to lose sharpshooter Shaun Higgins with a hamstring injury, but at least Luke Dahlhaus appears to have found his goalkicking shoes again. Before the Blues clash the dreadlocked Dog had managed just 9.16, so a haul of 4.1 was a terrific return.
AFL.com.au verdict: St Kilda by 29 points
-
- Saintsational Legend
- Posts: 12421
- Joined: Tue 24 Mar 2009 11:05pm
- Location: St Kilda
- Has thanked: 296 times
- Been thanked: 55 times
Re: Saints v Dogs - Preview / Discussion
bulldogs probably will set themselves as this is the only game they could even possibly win left this year. We should go ok with our forwards now they are playing Williams forward which leaves lake to hold the only key back role. if jones comes in it stretches us a little as one day he will fire up for them and kick a bag. minson v macca will be the crucial contest to me.
-
- SS Life Member
- Posts: 2622
- Joined: Thu 29 Sep 2011 9:45pm