Current H Sun predictor

[chook23]

MATT WINDLEY'S PREDICTED LADDER

1. Adelaide 18-4
2. Hawthorn 17-5
3. Sydney 17-5
4. Collingwood 17-5
5. West Coast 16-6
6. North Melbourne 14-8
7. Geelong 14-8
8. Essendon 13-9
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9. Fremantle 12-10
10. Carlton 12-10
11. St Kilda 11-11
12. Richmond 10-12
13. Brisbane Lions 9-13
14. Port Adelaide 6-16
15. Western Bulldogs 5-17
16. Melbourne 4-18
17. Gold Coast 2-20
18. Greater Western Sydney 1-21


We need a lot of things to go right.

[kosifantutti]

He seems to have everything going wrong for us. Losing all three of Collingwood Geelong Carlton. We really need to win two of those plus the other two. Not that much of a stretch.

[chook23]

He seems to have everything going wrong for us. Losing all three of Collingwood Geelong Carlton. We really need to win two of those plus the other two. Not that much of a stretch.

given our ability to string wins together this year.................4 out 5 wins is a stretch.

[chook23]

He seems to have everything going wrong for us. Losing all three of Collingwood Geelong Carlton. We really need to win two of those plus the other two. Not that much of a stretch.

given our ability to string wins together this year.................4 out 5 wins is a stretch.

Carlton could be close to full strength by that last game....simpson/walker/waite/robinson and judd back

[Sobraz]

Carlton could be close to full strength by that last game....simpson/walker/waite/robinson and judd back

So pretty much the same as when we belted them last time?!

[SaintPav]

At Etihad we are at least a 50% chance against Carlton. Ladder predictors are a waste of time.

How is this geeza going in the tipping this year?

[Teflon]

I still don't buy Adel and Nth as that strong teams....

[paddy]

i saw that, I reckon we will get up over carlton in R23, but if we dont win one of Cats, or Pies... we are out anyway...

Out of the draw i think that nth are a definite to make it (easy run home), its just the Dons and the Dockers that might give way for us....

[chook23]

Carlton could be close to full strength by that last game....simpson/walker/waite/robinson and judd back

So pretty much the same as when we belted them last time?!

I thought we did that to swans first time around!!

[Thinline]

We're a better side than 11th - I think we are more like a 6th or 7th - but hope as I might I can't see us winning all that we need to to make an impression.

You have to win the close ones, especially with the draw so horribly crooked (and frankly ours has been pretty kind beyond the 6 day turnaround stretch).

We've made a habit of dropping winnables this season. e.g. Freo, Port, Richmond. Burns you badly in end.

Freo don't have the easiest gallop home, so they might collapse. Same with Bummers and Cats. Still, hoping for other teams to trip over has always been a futile exercise.

Frankly, it's all on the line this weekend.

Win and who knows, lose and it all goes to porridge thereafter IMO.

[SainterK]

I still don't buy Adel and Nth as that strong teams....

I think North is a form team, but I don't think their gameplan is strong....someone will work it out.

[Old Mate]

Hmmm

Could see the Bombers losing every game and ending with 11 wins. The Tigers and Blues games the only two I give them a chance in, so anywhere from 11-13 wins. They've been thumped by 11+ goals in 3/4 last games. There's another spot that opens up in the 8 IMO.

Geelong still not cert. either. They have 3 make or break games against the Hawks, us and then the Swines in round 23. They will likely finish with 12-13 wins IMO.

Freo are a bit of a dark horse. Games against North and WC are their make or break games. They'll win between 12-14 IMO.

The HS seems to have picked us to lose all our make or break games against the Pies, Blues and Cats. We'll win 11-14 IMO. With our percentage 12 will prolly get us in, 13 likely a home final finishing 6th.

North are cert. for the finals and the Blues have left the run a bit late and have a toughish draw IMO.

We've definitely made it tough for ourselves and it's hard to see us win 4/5 so 12 may be our best bet and hope that a few sides fall over.

[Thinline]

Hmmm

Could see the Bombers losing every game and ending with 11 wins. The Tigers and Blues games the only two I give them a chance in, so anywhere from 11-13 wins. They've been thumped by 11+ goals in 3/4 last games. There's another spot that opens up in the 8 IMO.

Geelong still not cert. either. They have 3 make or break games against the Hawks, us and then the Swines in round 23. They will likely finish with 12-13 wins IMO.

Freo are a bit of a dark horse. Games against North and WC are their make or break games. They'll win between 12-14 IMO.

The HS seems to have picked us to lose all our make or break games against the Pies, Blues and Cats. We'll win 11-14 IMO. With our percentage 12 will prolly get us in, 13 likely a home final finishing 6th.

North are cert. for the finals and the Blues have left the run a bit late and have a toughish draw IMO.

We've definitely made it tough for ourselves and it's hard to see us win 5/6 so 12 may be our best bet and hope that a few sides fall over.

On your page.

12 and percent may do it, but it's lap of gods stuff from here really...

[Old Mate]

Hmmm

Could see the Bombers losing every game and ending with 11 wins. The Tigers and Blues games the only two I give them a chance in, so anywhere from 11-13 wins. They've been thumped by 11+ goals in 3/4 last games. There's another spot that opens up in the 8 IMO.

Geelong still not cert. either. They have 3 make or break games against the Hawks, us and then the Swines in round 23. They will likely finish with 12-13 wins IMO.

Freo are a bit of a dark horse. Games against North and WC are their make or break games. They'll win between 12-14 IMO.

The HS seems to have picked us to lose all our make or break games against the Pies, Blues and Cats. We'll win 11-14 IMO. With our percentage 12 will prolly get us in, 13 likely a home final finishing 6th.

North are cert. for the finals and the Blues have left the run a bit late and have a toughish draw IMO.

We've definitely made it tough for ourselves and it's hard to see us win 5/6 so 12 may be our best bet and hope that a few sides fall over.

On your page.

12 and percent may do it, but it's lap of gods stuff from here really...

I just realised that I made a mistake. We've only got 5 games left so we'll need to win 4/5 to end with 13 wins. 3/5 we should at least do with games against Melb and GWS, then win one of the Pies, Cats and Blues games. Given our good form against top sides we should be in with a chance to win them all....If we kick straight. Going to be tough tho.

[SainterK]

Geelong were never out of contention.

Blues are the ones who's 'resurgence' could be most damaging to us.

[Con Gorozidis]

if we cant win 2 of pies/cats/blues we are just not quite good enough.

if we win saturday night then we can start getting pumped about our footy. loss and we are just kidding ourselves fiddling around with 'mathematical possibilities'

[Old Mate]

Geelong were never out of contention.

Blues are the ones who's 'resurgence' could be most damaging to us.

How have the Cats gone against teams above them on the ladder and how many wins have they had interstate (not counting GWS and GC)? I know they beat the Crows at Skilled last weekend....And Hawthorn early in the season.

Agree regarding the Blues. It may be an 'Elimination Final' come round 23.

[jays]

very true

[plugger66]

I still don't buy Adel and Nth as that strong teams....

I think North is a form team, but I don't think their gameplan is strong....someone will work it out.

What is their game plan?

[SainterK]

I still don't buy Adel and Nth as that strong teams....

I think North is a form team, but I don't think their gameplan is strong....someone will work it out.

What is their game plan?

Admittedly I don't know the specifics, but it does involve a lot of handballing chains

Very open, very attacking....I reckon someone will work it out.