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Essendon definitely cooked they will not be able to prove they took growth hormone but they did !
spert wrote:I'll go jump if a few of those Geelong premiership players weren't pumped up with something..you can get your body so far in the gym, but when you start looking like the Michelin man...well I'll leave it up to your imagination
"ASADA officials held talks at AFL headquarters on Monday. The national drug agency is officially investigating Melbourne along with Essendon, with probes into practices at the Gold Coast and Geelong to come. The Kangaroos look certain to face questioning over Bates' time at the club in 2011."spert wrote:I'll go jump if a few of those Geelong premiership players weren't pumped up with something..you can get your body so far in the gym, but when you start looking like the Michelin man...well I'll leave it up to your imagination
It is wrong, but can never be proved. They will get a massive fine from the AFL and Dank will sue the s*** out of them.saintspremiers wrote:Info I've got is that Essendon will come out of this clean and haven't taken banned substances.
Hope it's wrong!
And they all went offsite to 'the Botox Clinic' to get injected because.......?saintspremiers wrote:Info I've got is that Essendon will come out of this clean and haven't taken banned substances.
Hope it's wrong!
Same person's info but from different sauce said that BJ didn't leave us because of money as the main motivator, so you have a point!Mr Magic wrote:And they all went offsite to 'the Botox Clinic' to get injected because.......?saintspremiers wrote:Info I've got is that Essendon will come out of this clean and haven't taken banned substances.
Hope it's wrong!
Because everything was 'above board' and they didn't have clean, sterile, clinical facilities at Windy Hill.
You know those same facilities where the Club doctors and other staff have been stitching players up, injecting painkillers and treating them for decades.
You're probably correct though.
Just because it
walks like a duck,
talks like a duck,
smells like a duck,
looks like a duck
it's really not a duck.
there is a difference between doing something AND whether authorities can prove you did and punish you for it.saintspremiers wrote:Info I've got is that Essendon will come out of this clean and haven't taken banned substances.
Hope it's wrong!
Verdun66 wrote:Stinks to high heaven. Be a joke if it all got swept under the carpet.
And what happened to all the rumours about the Pies in 2010? They were strong!
Verdun66 wrote:Stinks to high heaven. Be a joke if it all got swept under the carpet.
And what happened to all the rumours about the Pies in 2010? They were strong!
BOOM!SainterK wrote:http://playtrue.wada-ama.org/news/wada- ... ing%23wada
WADA statement on substance AOD-9604
April 22, 2013
Following a number of inquiries regarding the substance AOD-9604 available on the Internet ‘black market’ and possibly elsewhere, WADA has issued the following statement:
AOD-9604 is a substance still under pre-clinical and clinical development and has not been approved for therapeutic use by any government health authority in the world.
Therefore, under the 2013 Prohibited Substances and Methods List, the substance falls into the S.0 category which states:
“S0. NON-APPROVED SUBSTANCES
Any pharmacological substance which is not addressed by any of the subsequent sections of the List and with no current approval by any governmental regulatory health authority for human therapeutic use (e.g drugs under pre-clinical or clinical development or discontinued, designer drugs, substances approved only for veterinary use) is prohibited at all times.”
For more advice and information regarding medication or supplements, athletes are advised to contact their national anti-doping organization or international federation.
To access the List of Prohibited Substances and Methods, please click here:
plugger66 wrote: wrote:
What should they be penalised for?
Con Gorozides wrote:
AOD-9604
AOD-9604 is not currently prohibited under category S2 of the WADA Prohibited List (But would be banned under S0)
AOD-9604 works by mimicking the way natural GH regulates the metabolism of fat by stimulating lipolysis (the breakdown or destruction of fat) and inhibits lipogenesis (the transformation of non-fat food materials into body fat). Reports by Caldaza Ltd have shown that AOD-9604 had positive (anabolic) effects on cartilage tissue formation as well as enhancements in the ‘differential of muscle progenitor cells (cells that create muscle cells) to muscle cells’. Other purported benefits of AOD-9604 include increasing muscle mass and IGF-1 levels. AOD-9604 is not approved for human use.
Hexarelin
Hexarelin is considered a growth hormone releasing factor and is therefore prohibited under category S2, Hormones and Related Substances, according to the WADA Prohibited List. As with GHRP-6, hexarelin stimulates the release of GH, with effects similar to those experienced when using a synthetic growth hormone.
Purported beneficial effects of hexarelin use include increased strength, growth of new muscle fibres and increases in the size of existing muscle fibres, joint rejuvenation and assistance in healing. Hexarelin may also be beneficial in fat reduction. Unlike GHRP-6, there is no effect on appetite as it does not increase ghrelin levels responsible for increased hunger and gastric emptying.
True.SainterK wrote:Next step is for the Dons to provide the 'OK' that they were given regarding it, if ASADA verified it was fine they are clear, if Dank said "I've checked and it's fine" they are in big trouble.