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2017 Premiership Side

Post: # 1355890Post darylcowie »

I walked away from the heartbreaking loss to Collingwood in the 2010 GF Replay thinking to myself, if this mob could regroup and win a flage after successive GF losses seven years previously, then why can't we, so with this thought in mind, I've come up with a possible line up for us.

B: Newnes M Brown Saunders

HB: Roberton Lee Webster

C: Wright Ross Milera

HF: Markworth White Siposs

F: Saad Stanley Minchington

R: Hickey Murdoch Steven

I've deliberately left the interchange bench empty for us to pick up the final four pieces of the puzzle over the next four years.

There are a few surprising omissions that posters will pick up on, but if they aren't picked then I don't think they have what it takes to win it!

(e.g. Armitage and McEvoy, who are both too slow and one-dimensional to be game changers in our midfield)

There are also a few surprising positional changes that I think could make a difference, particularly Lee to CHB ala Fisher, who was also recruited as a forward.


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Post: # 1355898Post darylcowie »

Where were the filth at in 2006?

Stranger things have happened!


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Post: # 1356036Post southernsaint »

Dont think milera would be there. And dont forget the filth had a priority pick and drafted thomas and pendles


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Post: # 1356046Post noob »

I reckon McEvoy will only get better in years to come due to his endurance. Capping will most likely come into play and players like Dane Swan won't last.


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Post: # 1356048Post dragit »

About 6 - 8 stars short I reckon... Hopefully we get a few in the draft and a couple of our current guys become better than expected.


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Post: # 1356050Post spert »

I reckon we need to see how 2014 goes with some of those current younger players before we make any predictions. Siposs might be under a bit of pressure unless he can have a big pre-season and earn a regular spot in 2014..pretty disappoining this season when he should have been cementing a senior spot in a poor team. I expect Newnes to be the big improver, followed by Murdoch, Hickey and Webster. Ross needs to really get on the athletic track over summer and build the tank up. White is probably a couple of seasons off yet. Steven has scope to still improve.


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Post: # 1356052Post sasaint »

Love the optimism but need to have a reality check. We need to get some midfield stars. We have a Lyon legacy of mainly GOPs. The rebuild started last year and I am confident that Pelchen will be a big draft player over the next two years emphasising ball skills in a "Hawthorn" type rebuild. It won't happen overnight but it will happen. :mrgreen:


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quite right, it won't happen overnight, it will take four years!


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Post: # 1356068Post mad saint guy »

You really think a midfield of Steven, Ross, Murdoch, Milera and Wright could win a premiership? That would be a mediocre midfield in the VFL


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Post: # 1356070Post saintspremiers »

darylcowie wrote:quite right, it won't happen overnight, it will take four years!
IF we make the eight in 2017 you should be delighted.

If you are fair dinkum re a flag in 2017 you should market the herbs & spices you're consuming and make billions!


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darylcowie wrote:I walked away from the heartbreaking loss to Collingwood in the 2010 GF Replay thinking to myself, if this mob could regroup and win a flage after successive GF losses seven years previously, then why can't we, so with this thought in mind, I've come up with a possible line up for us.

B: Newnes M Brown Saunders

HB: Roberton Lee Webster

C: Wright Ross Milera

HF: Markworth White Siposs

F: Saad Stanley Minchington

R: Hickey Murdoch Steven

I've deliberately left the interchange bench empty for us to pick up the final four pieces of the puzzle over the next four years.

There are a few surprising omissions that posters will pick up on, but if they aren't picked then I don't think they have what it takes to win it!

(e.g. Armitage and McEvoy, who are both too slow and one-dimensional to be game changers in our midfield)

There are also a few surprising positional changes that I think could make a difference, particularly Lee to CHB ala Fisher, who was also recruited as a forward.

The only certainties or near certainties that I think will be there in 2017 are Newnes, Roberton, Webster, Wright, Ross, Stanley Murdoch and Steven. even a couple of those have some doubt. The rest are just get work or may not be good enough IMO.


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Post: # 1356072Post darylcowie »

NO, but I do think that a midfield of Steven, Ross, Murdoch, Milera, Wright and Hickey could win a Premiership!


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by the way, saintspremiers, how did you know that I am a naturopath (herbs & spices)?


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its also interesting that nobody has jumped to the defence of Armitage.


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Post: # 1356079Post Wayne42 »

I don't think the 2017 team will look anything like that, trouble is, I can't correct that team BECAUSE I don't know who they'll recruit in the next 4 drafts.


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still no love for Armitage eh?

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Post: # 1356082Post Dr Spaceman »

While Armo is not a superstar, and does have some limitations, he is a fine (still) young player that we've put a lot of time and resources into.

To suggest that in the space of 4 years we will be able to field a 22 that is so full of talent that there's no room in it for him seems a bit fanciful to me. So I reckon he's a big chance to be part of any 2017 Saints team.


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Dr Spaceman wrote:While Armo is not a superstar, and does have some limitations, he is a fine (still) young player that we've put a lot of time and resources into.

To suggest that in the space of 4 years we will be able to field a 22 that is so full of talent that there's no room in it for him seems a bit fanciful to me. So I reckon he's a big chance to be part of any 2017 Saints team.
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darylcowie wrote:
Dr Spaceman wrote:While Armo is not a superstar, and does have some limitations, he is a fine (still) young player that we've put a lot of time and resources into.

To suggest that in the space of 4 years we will be able to field a 22 that is so full of talent that there's no room in it for him seems a bit fanciful to me. So I reckon he's a big chance to be part of any 2017 Saints team.
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In 2017 GCS & GWS will each have 10 midfielders better than Armo unfortunately.

We love him cause he has guts, but he is a good honest battler really.


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Armo tries hard but is way behind the best.


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2017 Premiers, will need some good recruiting

B: Webster _____________ Newnes
HB: Wright _____________ Roberton
C: Murdoch ____________ ___________
HF: Markworth White __________
F: ___________ __________ __________
Foll: Hickey ___________ Steven
I/C: Ross ___________ ____________
sub: __________
emerg _________ _____________ _____________

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Post: # 1356093Post dragit »

Webster's 7 games as sub haven't shown enough yet to prove much, he's a nice kick though…

Markworth & White could easily play less than 50 career games at this stage…

Let's be honest, every club would have a bunch of guys they are hoping turn into the players that they sounded like in their draft write up.

I think we're clutching… The guns haven't arrived yet, but they will!


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Post: # 1356095Post Sainternist »

I like your optimism, DC. Love the username as well.

It has also occurred to me many time since GF II 2010 that we could perhaps take a leaf out of the filth's book. However, at this stage, it seems we have quite an uphill climb to get there within that same timeframe they got there.

Gotta say though, I don't think there's a snowflake's chance in hell that Terry Milera will even be an AFL footballer by the time 2017 rolls by. But like you said - stranger things have happened.


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Post: # 1356105Post Kiedis »

sasaint wrote:Love the optimism but need to have a reality check. We need to get some midfield stars. We have a Lyon legacy of mainly GOPs. The rebuild started last year and I am confident that Pelchen will be a big draft player over the next two years emphasising ball skills in a "Hawthorn" type rebuild. It won't happen overnight but it will happen. :mrgreen:
Who are the top midfield draft prospects this year with an emphasis on silky-skills, anyone know?

Heard both Aish & Kelly spoken of in this regard. Dunstan looks the goods, but does he carry a question mark over his footskills?

How do Scharenberg & Billings rank?

Be happy with any mentioned to be honest.


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