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Spencer White

Post: # 1394900Post damienc »

Does anyone have news on this guy?

He came to us with a dash of potential. Showed a glimpse or two for Sandringham.

He had a broken wrist when we first got him which also eventually put him out for 2013.

I've heard rumours that he has a fractured scaphoid bone which is notoriously difficult to heal because of a lack of blood flow.

If it didn't heal the first time he will have undergone more surgery that included a bone graft from his pelvis and at least six months in a cast.

Sometimes this bone fracture doesn't ever heal properly which can be career ending.

Not trying to be the voice of doom but would be grateful for any update.


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Re: Spencer White

Post: # 1394924Post bennymac5 »

We're in a good position with White IMO. Have somewhat of a free hit with him. We have Lee who I am confident will be a 40 goals a year player and next year will likely get our pick at at least one of Hugh Goddard, Patrick McCartin and Peter Wright, all who have great potential as key forwards. If White is a star, fantastic. If he isn't, we have other options.


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Re: Spencer White

Post: # 1394953Post Con Gorozidis »

damienc - i think you are spot on.

The wrist is the only thing holding him back. It really holds him back because it means he is limited in ability to lift weights.
Based on 6 months recovery it mean no weights until Feb. Probably needs his own pre-season then for 3 months so I wouldnt expect much from him before May.
Lets just hope the surgeon did a good job and it heals.


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Re: Spencer White

Post: # 1394959Post Munga »

Can't he lift weights from the wrists down? Just have him wear arm weights 16 hours a day. Something like this but beefier:

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Re: Spencer White

Post: # 1394961Post Dr Spaceman »

It's times like this when it would be real handy having a Doctor on the forum 8-)


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Re: Spencer White

Post: # 1394983Post gringo »

Hopefully you are wrong and the big boy can play 23 games next year and score 120 goals.


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Re: Spencer White

Post: # 1395028Post bobmurray »

damienc wrote:Does anyone have news on this guy?

He came to us with a dash of potential. Showed a glimpse or two for Sandringham.

He had a broken wrist when we first got him which also eventually put him out for 2013.

I've heard rumours that he has a fractured scaphoid bone which is notoriously difficult to heal because of a lack of blood flow.

If it didn't heal the first time he will have undergone more surgery that included a bone graft from his pelvis and at least six months in a cast.

Sometimes this bone fracture doesn't ever heal properly which can be career ending.

Not trying to be the voice of doom but would be grateful for any update.
probably another Jarryd Allen, gone before he got started, the McIntosh syndrome


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Re: Spencer White

Post: # 1395040Post bobmurray »

If he doesn't fire he will go down in club histroy as Spencer Shite :roll:


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Re: Spencer White

Post: # 1395139Post saint6709 »

He is a 2015 prospect IMO - wouldnt worry too much about him next year - a bloke like Lever needs to start making an impact in 2014 and I really hope he does - likewise Stanley needs to become a match winner, 2014 is time for him


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Re: Spencer White

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I've broken my scaphoid bone in my right wrist three times over the years. The first time was probably the worst. I was in a cast for three months but it hadn't healed sufficiently and I went back in for another 6 weeks. The second and third times happened about 18 months apart but healed fairly smoothly with each time in a cast for around 12 weeks. That was 20 years ago and although I never played anything more than suburban footy, I was still able to play for years after and only really finished playing super fools a couple years back. I also still play cricket and go to the gym and lift pretty heavy weights and I'm a Landscaper, and other than cold days, it doesn't hinder me at all. So really not doom and gloom issue


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Post: # 1395147Post White Winmar »

Dr Spaceman wrote:It's times like this when it would be real handy having a Doctor on the forum 8-)
You mean to say you're not a real doctor? Well I'll be buttered on both sides!


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saint6709 wrote:He is a 2015 prospect IMO - wouldnt worry too much about him next year - a bloke like Lever needs to start making an impact in 2014 and I really hope he does - likewise Stanley needs to become a match winner, 2014 is time for him
Better cancel my own post re Lever - think that was a poor decision for the record


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saintsdisco wrote:I've broken my scaphoid bone in my right wrist three times over the years. The first time was probably the worst. I was in a cast for three months but it hadn't healed sufficiently and I went back in for another 6 weeks. The second and third times happened about 18 months apart but healed fairly smoothly with each time in a cast for around 12 weeks. That was 20 years ago and although I never played anything more than suburban footy, I was still able to play for years after and only really finished playing super fools a couple years back. I also still play cricket and go to the gym and lift pretty heavy weights and I'm a Landscaper, and other than cold days, it doesn't hinder me at all. So really not doom and gloom issue
Dance floor accident ?

Seriously i think we just need to be patient.
Bones are brittle and week in ur late teens .
Lets just not rush him and mark him down for 2015.
It will heal and get stronger in his twenties.
Different injury to jarryd allen. Different result.
Hell get stronger gradually . No panic.


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Re: Spencer White

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^ Here's Con M.D


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Re: Spencer White

Post: # 1397208Post Verdun66 »

I broke my scaphoid aged 18 playing Rugby. 10 weeks in plaster, was a bit sore for a while after the cast came off, and then I launched into the cricket season and it didn't worry me at all. Only problem would be if he played with it broken, or came back too early.


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Re: Spencer White

Post: # 1397211Post BigMart »

He'll be sore in the cold.... Otherwise he should be fine....

He needs another season, with perhaps a debut.... His debut year, should be Riewoldts last.... He doesn't not work hard enough ATM

Neither does Rhys or Siposs

That is the three prong fwd line in the future.... Perhaps with Markworth/Murdoch and Minchington??


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Post: # 1397212Post Con Gorozidis »

Siposs is miles off and needs to remove to remove the digit and realise hes not a superstar and just aim to be a workhorse . stanley is a ruck or nothing imho.
But white - i still believe he can be a genuine key fwd in 2 years.
Markworth i hope turns out like fyfe. A mid who can sneak fwd.


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BigMart wrote:He'll be sore in the cold.... Otherwise he should be fine....

He needs another season, with perhaps a debut.... His debut year, should be Riewoldts last.... He doesn't not work hard enough ATM

Neither does Rhys or Siposs

That is the three prong fwd line in the future.... Perhaps with Markworth/Murdoch and Minchington??
I don't think any 19 year old knows what work is regardless of the profession


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Re: Spencer White

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Spencer is one of the players who's review will be up tomorrow 3/10
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Re: Spencer White

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Some asthma sufferers have problems with bone density from their medications. White's a severe asthmatic. The bone density problems can be mitigated, in some cases, depending on the type of asthma medication and identified impacts.


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he needs to be able to bench press 120kg + to play his position in the afl so he needs ongoing wrist strength.
we cant rush him. slow build of fitness and strenght. Wont impact until 2015.


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Re: Spencer White

Post: # 1398024Post gringo »

Con Gorozidis wrote:he needs to be able to bench press 120kg + to play his position in the afl so he needs ongoing wrist strength.
we cant rush him. slow build of fitness and strenght. Wont impact until 2015.

He is very quick and athletic for his height like Franklin. They may want him to stay slightly less bulky to preserve his speed and joints. I'm not sure Riewoldt could press 120 kegs and he goes okay.


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Con Gorozidis wrote:he needs to be able to bench press 120kg + to play his position in the afl so he needs ongoing wrist strength.
we cant rush him. slow build of fitness and strenght. Wont impact until 2015.
Time to build up his tank.


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Re: Spencer White

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The OtherThommo wrote:Some asthma sufferers have problems with bone density from their medications. White's a severe asthmatic. The bone density problems can be mitigated, in some cases, depending on the type of asthma medication and identified impacts.
By medication you mean steroids, right?


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gringo wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:he needs to be able to bench press 120kg + to play his position in the afl so he needs ongoing wrist strength.
we cant rush him. slow build of fitness and strenght. Wont impact until 2015.

He is very quick and athletic for his height like Franklin. They may want him to stay slightly less bulky to preserve his speed and joints. I'm not sure Riewoldt could press 120 kegs and he goes okay.
Id be amazed if Roo couldn't bench 120.
Not saying he needs to be a muscle man but he needs to be able to do push ups and hold his ground in a contest and lay hard tackles and not get rag dolled.
Just saying playing footy without a wrist is nigh on impossible. I reckon hell be ok if we manage his body. We dont want to Patty Cummings the kid!


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