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Sound familiar folks? I guess my take from all this is to discover just how much football followers have in common when it comes to talking about their team!
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I thought in 2009 we were the top team, unfortunately we were worked out after 19 wins and we were very lucky to even make the GF, lucky that the Footscray Bulldogs crumbled and we got in, then we crumbled.SaintPav wrote:Dave, when we were ever favorites to win back to back GF?
We were underdogs for both.
Wayne42 wrote:I thought in 2009 we were the top team, unfortunately we were worked out after 19 wins and we were very lucky to even make the GF, lucky that the Footscray Bulldogs crumbled and we got in, then we crumbled.SaintPav wrote:Dave, when we were ever favorites to win back to back GF?
We were underdogs for both.
You carn't say we were lucky .Wayne42 wrote:I thought in 2009 we were the top team, unfortunately we were worked out after 19 wins and we were very lucky to even make the GF, lucky that the Footscray Bulldogs crumbled and we got in, then we crumbled.SaintPav wrote:Dave, when we were ever favorites to win back to back GF?
We were underdogs for both.
I agree. It's career time for Lyon and his coaching methods and if he doesn't get that flag he's rootedjoffaboy wrote:More the coach is the same tan the supporters being the same.
Will be interesting if, at the end of his time at Freo he leaves their list in the shape he left ours.
If he does (and the Dockers haven't won a flag) the football industry will see him as a parasite and a list destroyer.
If he doesn't win a flag at Freo I doubt anyone will take him on as the Head Coach
If i remember correctly he was told by the Freo brass he had 2 goals..joffaboy wrote:More the coach is the same tan the supporters being the same.
Will be interesting if, at the end of his time at Freo he leaves their list in the shape he left ours.
If he does (and the Dockers haven't won a flag) the football industry will see him as a parasite and a list destroyer.
If he doesn't win a flag at Freo I doubt anyone will take him on as the Head Coach
thejiggingsaint wrote:I was gutted at the result of our game yesterday evening.
I ambled through to the lounge, to watch the Freo V North game, and while I KNOW it could be seen as twisted, found the "silver lining" with the Fremantle display
Now, I know that nobody should rejoice in someone else's pain, but it was "pleasing"
to see RL in that last quarter. North were well deserving of the win, particularly over at Subi. I then surfed to the "Dockerland" fan forum to see the reactions of their fans to the result. I'd never be rude enough to troll another fan forum, but it was just an interesting exercise to see how their supporters would deal with the situation of being red hot favourites for back-to-back Grand Finals, and having back-to-back defeats! (with a firm down-payment on a third next week!) and a top four spot now being something less than a "given". I was amazed at how similar some of the posts were to those posted here on Saintsational during the Ross Lyon era. Plenty of whingeing about the game plan, the emphasis on defending, how "predictable" the Dockers are, the reliance on a superstar forward (Pavlich). One of the most telling posts spoke of the "recruiting" and the state of the list!
Sound familiar folks? I guess my take from all this is to discover just how much football followers have in common when it comes to talking about their team!
Mr 1 Dimensional Flog.Wayne42 wrote:If i remember correctly he was told by the Freo brass he had 2 goals..joffaboy wrote:More the coach is the same tan the supporters being the same.
Will be interesting if, at the end of his time at Freo he leaves their list in the shape he left ours.
If he does (and the Dockers haven't won a flag) the football industry will see him as a parasite and a list destroyer.
If he doesn't win a flag at Freo I doubt anyone will take him on as the Head Coach
1/ win a flag
2/ develop for the next flag
Ross will ultimately fail at both, he's a 1 dimensional flog.
FQF wrote:Ross is an intelligent man, and extremely adept at AFL tactics. I am highly doubtful he is one-dimensional in a negative sense. His game plan transforms teams into the best in competition and regularly gets them into grand finals. The fact that he hasn't won one yet is partly due to simple bad luck and the fact that he's come up against even better opposition.
To call a game plan a failure despite it's constant success is ridiculous. I wonder how many other coaches in the league wouldn't mind having a plan that all but guaranteed top 4?
If he believes the plan needs to be tweaked, or changed completely, then I am certain he could do it.