Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

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8856brother wrote:
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FQF wrote:Is Armitage still injured?
No.
Surely if he's fit he plays. Is he playing at Sandy?
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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

Post: # 1467696Post starsign »

Schneider listed with a FOOT injury?
Perhaps they forgot to add the infamous addendum "Up the Fundemental Orifice" which he probably deserved!


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

Post: # 1467700Post dragit »

cwrcyn wrote:If Armitage isn't fit, which other midfielders do we have at the moment to replace Jones? I can't think of any.
How about Tom Curren?

Pretty disappointing dropping him instead of CJ...


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

Post: # 1467702Post spert »

Our forward defensive work has been terrible all season- and apart from Roo, there has been a total lack of intensity offensively and defensively in the forward line- I'm not surprised Stanley and Siposs were dropped, and I don't think they are capable of doing any better to be honest. Good to see Dunnell get a run, as he has worked hard for it. I wonder if AR is thinking of Simpkin at FF..


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

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cwrcyn wrote:Last week 14 players under 50 games, thus week 15 players under 50 games
Correct. In fact 12 players with 27 games or less. This is our second least experienced side of the year, after round 1.

I'd love to see Simpkin play forward for a few weeks. I really like his approach, it's just a shame he's not big enough to be a key back. If he can make a career as a forward it'd be really pleasing.


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

Post: # 1467709Post gringo »

Godd for Dunnell and Lee both look likely players and with Dunny he's probably gone if he doesn't show something. Not many get elevated off the rookie list then plateau and hold a senior spot. He trains like a super star and has been playing good VFL footy.


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

Post: # 1467710Post MC Gusto »

I think you guys are all being a bit kind to sip. Don't know what he's done to deserve another game? A few possies in junk time and 0 tackles..?
Lee a good inclusion
Curren unlucky


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

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MC Gusto wrote:I think you guys are all being a bit kind to sip. Don't know what he's done to deserve another game? A few possies in junk time and 0 tackles..?
Lee a good inclusion
Curren unlucky
I don't understand what everyone sees in Curren. As far as I can see his only assets are reasonable pace and massive guns. Disposal is poor to middling, doesn't find that much of the footy, has done some OK tagging jobs without being great. What am I missing?


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

Post: # 1467713Post saintbob »

Starting to lose faith with the selection panel, Jones should not be getting a game!!!!


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

Post: # 1467714Post BigMart »

Simpkin, Lee, Dunnell
Are consistently our best VFL players
Like
Shenton, Curran, Weller were before them

They have to make the transition as the above mentioned have

Problem is, they are probably just gap fillers until talent returns from injury or is recruited in... But at least they all have a dip

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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

Post: # 1467715Post saintspremiers »

Schneider is playing his final year. Surely we can't keep persisting with his almost constant injury issues.


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

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bergholt wrote:
MC Gusto wrote:I think you guys are all being a bit kind to sip. Don't know what he's done to deserve another game? A few possies in junk time and 0 tackles..?
Lee a good inclusion
Curren unlucky
I don't understand what everyone sees in Curren. As far as I can see his only assets are reasonable pace and massive guns. Disposal is poor to middling, doesn't find that much of the footy, has done some OK tagging jobs without being great. What am I missing?
His pace isnt that flash.
But he has done some good jobs and isnt bad in some circumstances.
Too early to make a call on him. End of next year may be a different story though.


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

Post: # 1467719Post dragit »

BigMart wrote:Simpkin, Lee, Dunnell
Are consistently our best VFL players
You said just last week that you've watched Lee most weeks this year and that he is struggling big time?


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

Post: # 1467720Post arpstk »

good to see these changes for Port good luck to Dunell and Lee. Saw Dunell on debut in Brisbane and he did enough to say he will be a good player...not so good to see some of the rubbish posted in response...lot of short sighted snipers on this forum


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

Post: # 1467723Post FQF »

Curren was accumulating massive numbers last year at Sandy but he's come in as a tagged with pretty unremarkable results. Perhaps a change of role is necessary to maximise potential.


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

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arpstk wrote:good to see these changes for Port good luck to Dunell and Lee. Saw Dunell on debut in Brisbane and he did enough to say he will be a good player...not so good to see some of the rubbish posted in response...lot of short sighted snipers on this forum
That was 2012. He's a very late bloomer if you are right.


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

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Changes give others a go. However, having watched Sippo fairly closely over the past 2 seasons, his tackling pressure has improved a lot. I saw a few instances last week, where he put himself in and yes, he did lay a couple of tackles. I would have given him a few more consecutive games.

Stanley out is a wake-up call for him - thought he tried hard last week too, but like Sipposs, without any real effectiveness.

Lee will be interesting to see, but against Port, it will be a very difficult step-up for him.


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

Post: # 1467732Post BigMart »

Yes, you're right ...

Lee has not been consistently at his best this year or last at Sandy.... In fact has played better at AFL level than VFL

Not sure why is posted that

Correct for the other 5 but


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

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BigMart wrote:Yes, you're right ...

Lee has not been consistently at his best this year or last at Sandy.... In fact has played better at AFL level than VFL

Not sure why is posted that

Correct for the other 5 but
Lee plays for about 10 minutes per game and kicks his one or two but then goes missing before an after that time. I hope he starts stringing more minutes together let alone games.


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

Post: # 1467736Post gringo »

skeptic wrote:my goodness, what is this skill that CJ has?

cannot believe he gets the nod again. for how long can he continue to play average football?

He has what Luke Ball didn't have and that is the ability to spread quickly. Coaches love guys like CJ because he gets involved in nearly every chain of play somewhere. His pressure acts are very good. His disposal has always let him down but his endeavour and ability to get a hand in to make life hard for the opposition gets him games. If we had a hybrid of him and Siposs we would have a gun player. Watching him live lets you see his ridiculous work rate, he's like a mini me Rooey with his running.

He is actually a really good player to have the kids play with because he Lenny and Rooey just work harder than anyone else on the field.


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

Post: # 1467740Post Junction Oval »

Interesting Post Gringo - it gives an insight that many of us have missed.


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

Post: # 1467741Post Con Gorozidis »

FQF wrote:Curren was accumulating massive numbers last year at Sandy but he's come in as a tagged with pretty unremarkable results. Perhaps a change of role is necessary to maximise potential.
My main issue issue with him is when he gets it and just throws it straight on the boot straight away for a mongrel kick fwd.
Its like the 1970s.


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

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Junction Oval wrote:Changes give others a go. However, having watched Sippo fairly closely over the past 2 seasons, his tackling pressure has improved a lot. I saw a few instances last week, where he put himself in and yes, he did lay a couple of tackles. I would have given him a few more consecutive games.

Stanley out is a wake-up call for him - thought he tried hard last week too, but like Sipposs, without any real effectiveness.

Lee will be interesting to see, but against Port, it will be a very difficult step-up for him.

It's a strange phenomenon that some guys play better around better players while some seem to play well at any level. Probably more understandable as a key forward though as you rely on supply to ply your craft.


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

Post: # 1467745Post dragit »

Jacks Back wrote:
BigMart wrote:Yes, you're right ...

Lee has not been consistently at his best this year or last at Sandy.... In fact has played better at AFL level than VFL

Not sure why is posted that

Correct for the other 5 but
Lee plays for about 10 minutes per game and kicks his one or two but then goes missing before an after that time. I hope he starts stringing more minutes together let alone games.
Let's hope he rises to the level… we are desperate for another avenue to goal.

Can't see him doing much rucking though? I guess he'll have to at some stage.


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Re: Team vs Port Adelaide- Sat 7/6

Post: # 1467747Post 8856brother »

Late changes I would think
Weller - Curren
Delaney - Stanley/Siposs


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