If we had pick 1 and 2 speculation would be in a far different gear.
Nice to have Melbourne's opportunity with 2 & 3.
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Could this be Judd mark 2- an improved goal-kicking version with two good shoulders?Bunk_Moreland wrote: I feel we will regret this for the next decade as we did when we missed out on Judd.
Really disappointed if we screw the pooch on this.
Well written post TT, my sentiments exactly.TwoTowers wrote:Clearly most of our armchair experts and panic merchants know very little about these very young men. I don't profess to know them either. But our club now knows every one of them inside and out. You cannot just pick the 'best player' from a highlights reel and disregard everything else when you have a very high draft pick!! You want someone who is going to be exceptional in all areas - including character and integrity. You want someone who is going to be a 10 year player for you at the very least. Do you all know these players so well that you can confidently predict that they will even be around in another three years? How do each of the candidates respond to coaching? How do they respond to pressure? Do they have bad habits already? Are they measured enough not to drop their load when given criticism? The club will have assessed all of this as well as the player type that will suit us best for years to come.
Some of the better commentators think that Heeney and Brayshaw are at least the equal of Petracca. McCartin is the clear best key forward. Our club is on the right track. If Petracca comes then I will welcome him. If McCartin comes then I will welcome him. If Brayshaw comes then I will welcome him. We will get the best player available.
Another interesting article on McCartin in this morning's Herald Sun:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/a ... 7134050462
Agree!dragit wrote:The club had a great draft last year, but we've had nearly a decade of horrendous recruiting… so I'm personally not buying "the club knows best" line…
Of course we'll all back McCartin if he comes, but if we choose to not draft the player widely tipped as the best in the country and he goes on to become a gun… it will be colossal.
what the hell has a bronlow got do with anything? Roughead will never win a brownlow but he is one of the most important players at hawthorn, Hawkins will never win a brownlow but he won them a premiership off his own boot, I'm not saying McCartin will be as good as either of these two but brownlows are only won by mids, but a champion tall forward is priceless.tweedaletomanning wrote:Agree!dragit wrote:The club had a great draft last year, but we've had nearly a decade of horrendous recruiting… so I'm personally not buying "the club knows best" line…
Of course we'll all back McCartin if he comes, but if we choose to not draft the player widely tipped as the best in the country and he goes on to become a gun… it will be colossal.
I'm calling it now..
Petracca will win a Brownlow!
Mcartin will not!
Surely tweedaletomanning was being sarcastic.BringBackMadDog wrote:what the hell has a bronlow got do with anything? Roughead will never win a brownlow but he is one of the most important players at hawthorn, Hawkins will never win a brownlow but he won them a premiership off his own boot, I'm not saying McCartin will be as good as either of these two but brownlows are only won by mids, but a champion tall forward is priceless.tweedaletomanning wrote: Agree!
I'm calling it now..
Petracca will win a Brownlow!
Mcartin will not!
Since Trout took over from Peake the drafting has been very good.dragit wrote:The club had a great draft last year, but we've had nearly a decade of horrendous recruiting… so I'm personally not buying "the club knows best" line…
Of course we'll all back McCartin if he comes, but if we choose to not draft the player widely tipped as the best in the country and he goes on to become a gun… it will be colossal.
Good for you.Animal Enclosure wrote:Since Trout took over from Peake the drafting has been very good.dragit wrote:The club had a great draft last year, but we've had nearly a decade of horrendous recruiting… so I'm personally not buying "the club knows best" line…
Of course we'll all back McCartin if he comes, but if we choose to not draft the player widely tipped as the best in the country and he goes on to become a gun… it will be colossal.
He & his team deserve to have our confidence.
I'll back their decision over a group of blokes on an Internet forum who have never seen either kid play live.
This. +1Animal Enclosure wrote: Since Trout took over from Peake the drafting has been very good.
He & his team deserve to have our confidence.
Animal Enclosure wrote:Since Trout took over from Peake the drafting has been very good.dragit wrote:The club had a great draft last year, but we've had nearly a decade of horrendous recruiting… so I'm personally not buying "the club knows best" line…
Of course we'll all back McCartin if he comes, but if we choose to not draft the player widely tipped as the best in the country and he goes on to become a gun… it will be colossal.
He & his team deserve to have our confidence.
I'll back their decision over a group of blokes on an Internet forum who have never seen either kid play live.
When was it on Con? Would like to have a listen..Con Gorozidis wrote:Have to say - thats a pretty bloody impressive interview on 3AW by PM.
Yeah, the right way to build a high-class midfield is to convert random players who've never played there. With Membrey, Siposs, Geary, Shenton, Murdoch, Simpkin, Bruce and McCartin in there we'll be unstoppable!MC Gusto wrote:Maybe membrey is planned for the mid as well..? Meaning our mid stocks suddenly look quite solid...
Sting, I am really nervous about this. My gut is saying if don't get Petracca it'll be like passing on a player of Chris Judd's caliber.stinger wrote:Sainternist wrote:I sincerely hope this is BS.
i was shattered when we passed on rioli.....complete feeling of emptiness when we passed on darling.....i remember looking at the guys drafted on numerous past occasions feeling like the woman left in limbo when the guy rolls off and goes to sleep after 25 seconds of thrusting.....having seen the promise of so much and then being delivered uninteresting tidbits......depression then sets in......f****** better not pass on christian...but i'm fearing we will......they made their decisions and came up with a settled draft order last wednesday.......maybe it las leaked ,,,,most things down seaford way do.....
I'm actually feeling very relaxedSobraz wrote:Becoming less concerned by the minute.
Actually, I hope we do take McCartin now. There must be some significant talent there to be a locked in top 3 pick, and with the right development and attitude, he may well be our next Roo. If the way he speaks is anything to go by, combined with his obvious skills, this boy will be the cornerstone of our team for a decade.
With respect to 3 minute highlights, its best we go back and view Tom Boyd's pre draft tape. It's well acknowledged that he was far and away the pick 1 last year, and if he was in this years draft it'd be Boyd then daylight. His highlight tapes are very similar to McCartins in that they are slightly underwhelming, but does all that is needed of him.
With McCartin and the 21/22 combination, we have a lot to look forward to next year.
Also love the panic and hysteria going on by a certain few. Makes me feel a lot less invested in something none of us really know anything about.
Have been saying that for weeks. Ever since we secured our No.1 pickSainternist wrote:Sting, I am really nervous about this. My gut is saying if don't get Petracca it'll be like passing on a player of Chris Judd's caliber.stinger wrote:Sainternist wrote:I sincerely hope this is BS.
i was shattered when we passed on rioli.....complete feeling of emptiness when we passed on darling.....i remember looking at the guys drafted on numerous past occasions feeling like the woman left in limbo when the guy rolls off and goes to sleep after 25 seconds of thrusting.....having seen the promise of so much and then being delivered uninteresting tidbits......depression then sets in......f****** better not pass on christian...but i'm fearing we will......they made their decisions and came up with a settled draft order last wednesday.......maybe it las leaked ,,,,most things down seaford way do.....
Bunk_Moreland wrote:Exactly. Nobody is disputing McCartin is a very good player and many other clubs may well select him as No.1.samoht wrote:Of course. We'll all be behind him. But whether we'll get behind the recruiters/our recruiting team remains to be seen.fugazi wrote:
Once he's name is read out, and he's a Saint we should all get behind him.
But is he the right fir for a rebuilding club who is crying out for midfielders with class.
Saying get mids @21 and 21 is fine, but they are picks 21 and 22 for a reason and that reason is they are judged to be not as good as Petracca or Brayshaw.
I feel we will regret this for the next decade as we did when we missed out on Judd.
Really disappointed if we screw the pooch on this.