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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

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saynta wrote:
saintjake wrote:
Bunk_Moreland wrote:
saintjake wrote:Does anyone out there have some rock solid information on the Carlisle trades that isn't taken from some anonymous poster on Big Footy.
Will it get done any time soon?
Will it just be between us and the Bombers or will Port and Gold Coast get involved?
If it's the rumoured port deal, will we use those picks on JOM?

Anything half FACT would be great. Getting so tired of all armchair experts on Bigfooty. Just want some actual news
Do go there then.

Asking anonymous posters on one forum if they have better information from anomonous posters on another forum seems to be a bit of a waste of time

The day you provide anything useful will be the day Santa and Jesus are confirmed as real.
Think one out of two has already been confirmed.
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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

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Eastern wrote:
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bigred wrote:Port Adelaide situation is getting reported all over.

So yeah, Essendon may have a few issues sitting down....
I actually like that deal better, gives us 2 first rounders next year, 10 for Calisle and perhaps a second or 3rd rounder back.
We could shop for whoever we want or 2 good picks for next years draft

Worst would be a straight swap for 10 and theres no way they could refuse it if mediation came into play
Does the Port deal also help us with the points thingy for Bailey Rice? I don't understand how that works !!
No we can't use any points from a yet to be determined pick in 2016.
Bailey Rice will not be called in the top 10 or in the first round.
When Rice's name is called we will use our next pick and any subsequent picks to make up the necessary points to match the calling club less a discount of 197 points (Not being called in the first round).
The catch is we need the necessary points still remaining.
It is a waste of draft position to be the first to call your own father-son or academy player.
In that regard it might better to improve our 4th round pick a tad at the expense of our second round pick.
There is a possibility that Bailey Rice may be called around pick 30 and our 3rd and 4th rounders not have enough points despite the discount.


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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

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Reported that Blues, GC, and Lions all out of running for Carlisle IN PSD due to SC issues.

Essendon out due to Corps Law Restraint of trade legislation.

Essendon trade or they get Donuts


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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

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Bunk_Moreland wrote:Reported that Blues, GC, and Lions all out of running for Carlisle IN PSD due to SC issues.

Essendon out due to Corps Law Restraint of trade legislation.

Essendon trade or they get Donuts
Could Carl, GC & Bris still delist players to free up SC space?


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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

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Bunk_Moreland wrote:Reported that Blues, GC, and Lions all out of running for Carlisle IN PSD due to SC issues.

Essendon out due to Corps Law Restraint of trade legislation.

Essendon trade or they get Donuts
Let's give them donuts -as long as we are sure that the teams with picks before us won't take him.


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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

Post: # 1586097Post ace »

Getting pick 10 out of Port and their 2016 first rounder may be hard.
They would probably only want to give up pick 10 and 2016 first rounder if they get picks 5, 24 & 64.
Maybe our 2016 second rounder instead 24.


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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

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I think the key is he only wants to come to the saints.....


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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

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lol

Too freakin good.

Now what were they saying about dealing with a professional club...?

Let's drill them a new hole.


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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

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I think if we are going to trade for Carlisle the sooner we sell pick 5 the better.
Only then will Essendon start to deal.
If we are going to try to get Carlisle through the main draft or the PSD then we stop talking to Essendon and use pick 5 ourselves in the main draft.
Essendon may then capitulate and beg for steak knives.


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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

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saynta wrote:
saintjake wrote:
Bunk_Moreland wrote:
saintjake wrote:Does anyone out there have some rock solid information on the Carlisle trades that isn't taken from some anonymous poster on Big Footy.
Will it get done any time soon?
Will it just be between us and the Bombers or will Port and Gold Coast get involved?
If it's the rumoured port deal, will we use those picks on JOM?

Anything half FACT would be great. Getting so tired of all armchair experts on Bigfooty. Just want some actual news
Do go there then.

Asking anonymous posters on one forum if they have better information from anomonous posters on another forum seems to be a bit of a waste of time

The day you provide anything useful will be the day Santa and Jesus are confirmed as real.
Think one out of two has already been confirmed.
Wot is u saying. Jesus is real 2.


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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

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SuperDuper wrote:bombers have made a counter offer, it seems...

5 for Carlilse + 3rd rounder (44)

I would certainly settle for carlisle +23+44 for 5+63
i.e let 25 from our original offer slide to 44

I doubt we expected them to take our original offer.. so we must have had some target in mind.. maybe it is it bit closer toward essendon....
Pick 5 for Carlisle and pick 44.
On points that values Carlisle at 1,516 points between pick 8 & 9 (pick 8= 1,551 & pick 9 = 1,469)
But the quality in this draft around pick 44 is claimed to be so poor most posters on saintsational could get drafted.
The Essendon offer is not much different from them demanding pick 5.


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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

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magnifisaint wrote:I'd rather Carlisle goes to the draft and get picked up by Carltoon than deal with Dildoro. Surely he wouldn't last in his job if that happened. A poker player he's not!
When you are a made man you can not be sacked unless the godfather agrees.


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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

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jaxons wrote:
Playon wrote:jaxons, can you verify or deny any of this?
garbage
But the Dildo and his mafia like the waste management business.


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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

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jaxons wrote:
Playon wrote:jaxons, can you verify or deny any of this?
garbage
Why doesn't that surprise me


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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

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AFL trade period 2015: Nathan Freeman to join St Kilda by Tuesday morning

Collingwood midfielder Nathan Freeman is set to join the Saints in a deal for St Kilda's second round pick next year.

The deal which is expected to go through Monday afternoon or Tuesday morning at the latest, will also involve an exchange of later draft picks

Full story at

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/a ... z3ozCeIXqy


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Yes the deal is done and will be announced probably tomorrow.


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GWS to keep pick 8, will be using it in the draft, from the horses mouth.. SEN

Dildo full of it


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jaxons wrote:Yes the deal is done and will be announced probably tomorrow.
Do you know if its a swap of our 3rd for their 4th? (included)


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jaxons wrote:Yes the deal is done and will be announced probably tomorrow.
Give us a sniff jaxons, what else is cooking ?


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Linton Street Saint wrote:
jaxons wrote:Yes the deal is done and will be announced probably tomorrow.
Give us a sniff jaxons, what else is cooking ?
Carlisle will be conceived soonish as well, we are still hoping McCarthy gets to Freo....you can join the dots!


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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

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Well er I'm not sure, give me a hint

Hope were not doing 5 in a straight swap for JC?


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jaxons wrote:
Linton Street Saint wrote:
jaxons wrote:Yes the deal is done and will be announced probably tomorrow.
Give us a sniff jaxons, what else is cooking ?
Carlisle will be conceived soonish as well, we are still hoping McCarthy gets to Freo....you can join the dots!

Ive joined them but don't get the answer you are alluding to.


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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

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Playon wrote:Well er I'm not sure, give me a hint

Hope were not doing 5 in a straight swap for JC?
Maybe 5 to Freo (for them to use on McCarthy)
We get back their first pick and Weller Jnr
We either give the Freo first round to Dildoro for Carlisle or we use it ourselves?


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ripplug66 wrote:
jaxons wrote:
Linton Street Saint wrote:
jaxons wrote:Yes the deal is done and will be announced probably tomorrow.
Give us a sniff jaxons, what else is cooking ?
Carlisle will be conceived soonish as well, we are still hoping McCarthy gets to Freo....you can join the dots!

Ive joined them but don't get the answer you are alluding to.

McCarthy has nothing to do with Carlisle, but someone else we are still trying to get who wants to come.


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Re: 2015 - Draft & Trade Thread

Post: # 1586178Post ripplug66 »

Mr Magic wrote:
Playon wrote:Well er I'm not sure, give me a hint

Hope were not doing 5 in a straight swap for JC?
Maybe 5 to Freo (for them to use on McCarthy)
We get back their first pick and Weller Jnr
We either give the Freo first round to Dildoro for Carlisle or we use it ourselves?

I don't get this Weller stuff at all. Why is he leaving already. Its only saints boards that think it is happening. I have heard he will finish his contract.


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