Team v Roos
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Team v Roos
Murdoch Lonie Goddard in. No outs
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Re: Team v Roos
Rd7 teams named
St K v NM
Murdoch, Goddard, Lonie into 25
Nahas, Daw, Mullett, McKenzie, Wood in for Thomas, Turner.
St K v NM
Murdoch, Goddard, Lonie into 25
Nahas, Daw, Mullett, McKenzie, Wood in for Thomas, Turner.
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Re: Team v Roos
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Re: Team v Roos
Bit soon i think.
Richo has shown that he gives second chances. Lee just has to do the work
Richo has shown that he gives second chances. Lee just has to do the work
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Re: Team v Roos
That is very harsh considering he played well in both senior gamesCon Gorozidis wrote:Message to Tommy Lee. Start thinking about 2017. Freo or Claremont?
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Re: Team v Roos
Sorry. Slight misinterpretation. I personally didnt think he should have been dropped. I think he played well. Cameron kicked 5 from 62 f50 entries and Lee was dropped then Hogan kicks 7 from only 55 entries and noone gets the blame. Crickets.magnifisaint wrote:That is very harsh considering he played well in both senior gamesCon Gorozidis wrote:Message to Tommy Lee. Start thinking about 2017. Freo or Claremont?
It seems like Lee is the scapegoat. My point is if the coaches wont select him this week against Brown, Petrie and Waite I assume the coaches have stamped his papers. It doesnt bode well for him as a Saint. For the record I also think he played well. But he clearly isnt in the Coach's favourite books if he cant get a go this week. I think the coaches were a bit harsh on Tom.
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I somewhat agree with you, however, let me just point something out.Con Gorozidis wrote:Sorry. Slight misinterpretation. I personally didnt think he should have been dropped. I think he played well. Cameron kicked 5 from 62 f50 entries and Lee was dropped then Hogan kicks 7 from only 55 entries and noone gets the blame. Crickets.magnifisaint wrote:That is very harsh considering he played well in both senior gamesCon Gorozidis wrote:Message to Tommy Lee. Start thinking about 2017. Freo or Claremont?
It seems like Lee is the scapegoat. My point is if the coaches wont select him this week against Brown, Petrie and Waite I assume the coaches have stamped his papers. It doesnt bode well for him as a Saint. For the record I also think he played well. But he clearly isnt in the Coach's favourite books if he cant get a go this week. I think the coaches were a bit harsh on Tom.
The three players dropped last week (yes lets not fluff with this McCartin managed crap) had 0 tackles.
Lee has gone back to reserves and gotten... yep 0 tackles. So basically he won't be coming in until he works on that stat you can basically bookmark that.
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Understandable that Lee would be disappointed. He has done well in his two games. Goddard has the height, but not sure that his current form is great, although I nominated him earlier in the week.
We need additional height on the backline this week and it looks like Goddard. Let's hope that he plays well - but it will be tough first up against the top side. His extra height for bringing the ball to ground, may have been his primary selection criteria.
We need additional height on the backline this week and it looks like Goddard. Let's hope that he plays well - but it will be tough first up against the top side. His extra height for bringing the ball to ground, may have been his primary selection criteria.
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Spot on. Its not just what you do with the ball its also what you do without it and I noticed at the GWS game TL did a lot of ball watching. I remember thinking in tbe early part of the game he seemed to be running on the spot not pushing hard in either direction. He got better as game wore on and got himself in better positions but coaches want that for 4 quarters not 2 and a bit. Also noticed he cant tackle. Few half arsed attempts but not good enough for someone trying to keep his spot. Should have been going in like a freight train. Still think he's worth persisting with. I think he's got the tools. Just needs a bit of mongrel. His nice guy persona isnt helping his AFL career.lewdogs wrote:I somewhat agree with you, however, let me just point something out.Con Gorozidis wrote:Sorry. Slight misinterpretation. I personally didnt think he should have been dropped. I think he played well. Cameron kicked 5 from 62 f50 entries and Lee was dropped then Hogan kicks 7 from only 55 entries and noone gets the blame. Crickets.magnifisaint wrote:That is very harsh considering he played well in both senior gamesCon Gorozidis wrote:Message to Tommy Lee. Start thinking about 2017. Freo or Claremont?
It seems like Lee is the scapegoat. My point is if the coaches wont select him this week against Brown, Petrie and Waite I assume the coaches have stamped his papers. It doesnt bode well for him as a Saint. For the record I also think he played well. But he clearly isnt in the Coach's favourite books if he cant get a go this week. I think the coaches were a bit harsh on Tom.
The three players dropped last week (yes lets not fluff with this McCartin managed crap) had 0 tackles.
Lee has gone back to reserves and gotten... yep 0 tackles. So basically he won't be coming in until he works on that stat you can basically bookmark that.
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Re: Team v Roos
Trying to work out Richo's criteria for players to get a game.. looks like you need to lay a lot of tackles rather than worry about poor disposal or decision-making under pressure, or winning one-on-one marking duels. I'll keep working on it...I'm sure there's some logic in it.
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It's pretty simple really. Follow team rules, be selfless, and play your role. The handling of Blake Acres is a perfect example- hre is now a NAB rising star and even he admits he has to work on certain aspects of his game to be a good AFL footballer.
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Team to be finalised tomorrow arvo/evening so he's not safe yet although, you'd think a 6 goal win should be enough to make it a "No Change" team (unless there is an injury of course).evo wrote:Good to see Minch hold his spot. Some of his clearances in the third qtr were excallent IMO.
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Mav might be in trouble though.Jacks Back wrote:Team to be finalised tomorrow arvo/evening so he's not safe yet although, you'd think a 6 goal win should be enough to make it a "No Change" team (unless there is an injury of course).evo wrote:Good to see Minch hold his spot. Some of his clearances in the third qtr were excallent IMO.
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Re: Team v Roos
You'd reckon we might look at more height and strength in defence to combat Waite and Petrie etc. I see Goddard listed on the extended bench though I understand he hasn't really been knocking the door down. Will be interesting. Richo might go for more run, we'll see.
Meanwhile I saw an interesting stat that we've not won a final quarter this season. What's going on there to you think?
Meanwhile I saw an interesting stat that we've not won a final quarter this season. What's going on there to you think?
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Re: Team v Roos
Tommy Lee looks like he is holding back when it comes to the physical aspects of the game. Injury fatigue! After the run of injuries he's had it must be hard to commit to a tackle. He isnt physical enough for any of Norths talls. He tends to want to recieve ball than go and get it and tries to time a defensive punch as apposed to bodying for position. I think he lacks power too. Goddard is a very different prospect and will probably get Brown.
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This is just a cop-out to make an example of a guy playing just his second game in 2 years.lewdogs wrote:I somewhat agree with you, however, let me just point something out.Con Gorozidis wrote:Sorry. Slight misinterpretation. I personally didnt think he should have been dropped. I think he played well. Cameron kicked 5 from 62 f50 entries and Lee was dropped then Hogan kicks 7 from only 55 entries and noone gets the blame. Crickets.magnifisaint wrote:That is very harsh considering he played well in both senior gamesCon Gorozidis wrote:Message to Tommy Lee. Start thinking about 2017. Freo or Claremont?
It seems like Lee is the scapegoat. My point is if the coaches wont select him this week against Brown, Petrie and Waite I assume the coaches have stamped his papers. It doesnt bode well for him as a Saint. For the record I also think he played well. But he clearly isnt in the Coach's favourite books if he cant get a go this week. I think the coaches were a bit harsh on Tom.
The three players dropped last week (yes lets not fluff with this McCartin managed crap) had 0 tackles.
Lee has gone back to reserves and gotten... yep 0 tackles. So basically he won't be coming in until he works on that stat you can basically bookmark that.
6 players failed to lay a tackle against GWS including Montagna & Savage who were around a lot more of the play than Lee.
It's only a "non-negotiable" if you apply it to everyone.
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Re: Team v Roos
Monty is not the player he was- just a good serviceable player now, and his disposal has gone off from the precision kicking and handball he once had, Fisher and Dempster in the same boat, but at some stage age catches up with the best.
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You've got to be kidding!!! all three have been unbelievable his year, Joey has found a new lease of life off half back, him and Savage have been brilliant with their run and carry and disposal. As for Fisher and Dempster, we would have been lucky to win a game if not for these two, they have both played out of their weight division and have hardly been beaten all.spert wrote:Monty is not the player he was- just a good serviceable player now, and his disposal has gone off from the precision kicking and handball he once had, Fisher and Dempster in the same boat, but at some stage age catches up with the best.
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Interesting observation. I'm certain Joey would be in our top 5 in each of the first three games. Clear best on ground against Collingwood. He's not at 09-10 levels, but he's not far off.spert wrote:Monty is not the player he was- just a good serviceable player now, and his disposal has gone off from the precision kicking and handball he once had, Fisher and Dempster in the same boat, but at some stage age catches up with the best.