Hitout /Clearance -- Correlation

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Hitout /Clearance -- Correlation

Post: # 1615661Post samoht »

I don't know if anyone else noticed the stats, but we lost the hitouts 24 to 41 but won the clearances 46 to 23!

That's 17 less hitouts yielding 23 more clearances!


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Post: # 1615667Post magnifisaint »

Thought Hickey was good. Didn't think Luenberger was that great. It's not all just taps.


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Good ruck work can determine where the ball goes without necessarily touching it. Hickey can do this well. He knows where and when to leap.


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Post: # 1615674Post Saintberra »

In this context, hitouts mean very little unless it is hitouts to adv.


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Post: # 1615680Post samoht »

Saintberra wrote:In this context, hitouts mean very little unless it is hitouts to adv.
Also, "Hitouts to advantage" stats mean little if you don't have "hitouts to disadvantage" stats. A lot of hitouts go directly to an opposition player in clear advantage... a stat that gets ignored or is never cited.

Full forwards miss easy set shots from directly in front, under no pressure - but we seem to think ruckmen can only hit it to advantage under the extreme pressure of ruck contests - and never to their team's disadvantage.


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Post: # 1615777Post Toy Saint »

Hickey looked knackered yesterday


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Post: # 1615781Post Spinner »

samoht wrote:I don't know if anyone else noticed the stats, but we lost the hitouts 24 to 41 but won the clearances 46 to 23!

That's 17 less hitouts yielding 23 more clearances!


You should be a quant using 1 data point to calculate correlation.


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Re: Hitout /Clearance -- Correlation

Post: # 1615876Post samoht »

Spinner wrote:
samoht wrote:I don't know if anyone else noticed the stats, but we lost the hitouts 24 to 41 but won the clearances 46 to 23!

That's 17 less hitouts yielding 23 more clearances!


You should be a quant using 1 data point to calculate correlation.
OK, I'll be a bit more of a quant for you, then. :D
WCE over the 9 matches they've played so far this year have won 212 more hitouts than their direct opponents but only 16 more clearances than them.
16 more clearances over 9 games .. for all those extra 212 hitouts! So, they averaged less than 2 more clearances per game, over their opponents... even though they won 24 more hitouts on average per game!

We had 23 more clearances in only one game (our last match ... with 17 less hitouts!)... just to put things in perspective.
We're also averaging 14.3 centre breaks so far this year (over the 9 games) .....compared to WCE's 14.2!

You're welcome to do more thorough analysis to disprove me/show me up re: correlation. My contention is the correlation is negligible/tenuous at best with the
small amount of analysis I've done (5 minutes worth). Do some better analysis and prove me wrong... but don't dismiss me out of hand.


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Re: Hitout /Clearance -- Correlation

Post: # 1615905Post Griggsy »

If it was all about getting hands on it first we would have Holmes out there week in week out.


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