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Over handball joke!

Post: # 1676229Post BigMart »

I posted this a few weeks back, got lashed... can we agree now?

The over use of the footy created by a terrible structure where we throw an extra through the midfield

Not sure what the numbers say, but watching it, I feel like the ratio is completely wrong

And it's an AR thing

The last 3 games, his coaching strategy has been poor


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Post: # 1676238Post chook23 »

Spot on ....over use
Handball ratio way to high...


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Post: # 1676250Post Teflon »

When a team tries to execute an over use, skilful sides game plan without the necessary skill its a recipe for disaster...


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Post: # 1676281Post Con Gorozidis »

Multiple handballs in small circles to stationary players.
Does my f****** head in.


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Post: # 1676293Post Joe Bloggs »

Teflon wrote:When a team tries to execute an over use, skilful sides game plan without the necessary skill its a recipe for disaster...
Wha?


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Post: # 1676300Post Sainternist »

This is like Geelong when they were dubbed the Handbag team. It's a procession of handballs followed by fumble, fumble, apple crumble.


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Post: # 1676308Post BigMart »

It's what you do when you have nothing in front of the ball and an extra around the ball

You use the extra, because it's there... which causes no damage, then kick it to an outnumbered forward line, and watch it bounce back!!!

It's a flawed game style!


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Post: # 1676325Post jonesy »

The calamity of it started against carlton,amazingly 4 games later it's still happening. It's probably the dumbest thing I have seen by a sporting team in any professional code.

I have lost complete faith in the current regime.


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Post: # 1676401Post BigMart »

Would love the raw numbers of the last 4 games?!

Surely it's understood by the coaches?


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The tone was set when the pathetic, attempted, roughing up of Sloane was exposed by the team's timid attack at the ball (and the Adelaide ball-carriers). The pressure was on then to deliver and we couldn't. Instead the Saints played like self-centred scaredy cats. Seb Ross and his laughable attempt at a chest mark summed up where the team is at. The rot started with that appalling, abject, BLUE of an apology by Geary.


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Post: # 1676407Post stonecold »

BigMart wrote:I posted this a few weeks back, got lashed... can we agree now?

The over use of the footy created by a terrible structure where we throw an extra through the midfield

Not sure what the numbers say, but watching it, I feel like the ratio is completely wrong

And it's an AR thing

The last 3 games, his coaching strategy has been poor
Yes, as much as it pains me, have to agree, well done BigM!!!!!


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BigMart wrote:It's what you do when you have nothing in front of the ball and an extra around the ball

You use the extra, because it's there... which causes no damage, then kick it to an outnumbered forward line, and watch it bounce back!!!

It's a flawed game style!
It's exposed totally know. No coming back. From here.


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Post: # 1676415Post Con Gorozidis »

stonecold wrote:
BigMart wrote:I posted this a few weeks back, got lashed... can we agree now?

The over use of the footy created by a terrible structure where we throw an extra through the midfield

Not sure what the numbers say, but watching it, I feel like the ratio is completely wrong

And it's an AR thing

The last 3 games, his coaching strategy has been poor
Yes, as much as it pains me, have to agree, well done BigM!!!!!
BM is spot on about this.

Sometimes we give 5 or 6 handballs in a circle in the midfield. Handball 4, 5 and 6 are always to a stationary player in a worse position than handball 2 and 3.
Often the 2nd or 3rd guy is completely clear. But then we have another 3 handballs in the circle anyway. Then we fumble and hey presto off it goes.
Or we spend so long handballing the opposition drop back and then we hack a rushed ball fwd missing any leads to an outnumbered fwd line.

It should be 2 or 3 handballs - then breakaway - then hit a target by foot.


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Post: # 1676432Post Bruce G McAbee »

We handball so much in the back half because there's no one forward to kick it to.


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Post: # 1676435Post BigMart »

That's structural... forwards either not working to get into structure

Or

A poor structure in front of the ball

Likely
A combination of two factors


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Too frightened to take the game on....


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Too frightened to take the game on....


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Post: # 1676495Post St Lenny »

All the hand ball drives me bonkers. Even when we kick it, its ten ks in the air or into a pack with an opposition player at the front. Or kick backwards, they get the ball and goal. Its so predictable and SO frustrating. Its like no body wants the ball. We are woeful.


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saintkev wrote:Too frightened to take the game on....
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saintkev wrote:Too frightened to take the game on....
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Post: # 1676605Post happy feet »

BigMart wrote:I posted this a few weeks back, got lashed... can we agree now?

The over use of the footy created by a terrible structure where we throw an extra through the midfield

Not sure what the numbers say, but watching it, I feel like the ratio is completely wrong

And it's an AR thing

The last 3 games, his coaching strategy has been poor
Not often I agree with you BM but you're right on the money. Over hand balling because we have to give the forwards time to get back due to the flood, is making us the turnover kings of the AFL. And when we can manage to get it through the midfield the forwards don't get a chance to set properly. I drives me nuts watching it.


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Post: # 1676610Post Joffa Burns »

happy feet wrote:
BigMart wrote:I posted this a few weeks back, got lashed... can we agree now?

The over use of the footy created by a terrible structure where we throw an extra through the midfield

Not sure what the numbers say, but watching it, I feel like the ratio is completely wrong

And it's an AR thing

The last 3 games, his coaching strategy has been poor
Not often I agree with you BM but you're right on the money. Over hand balling because we have to give the forwards time to get back due to the flood, is making us the turnover kings of the AFL. And when we can manage to get it through the midfield the forwards don't get a chance to set properly. I drives me nuts watching it.
We play plus 1 in the back line to free up Roberton.
We have an extra around the stoppage which leaves the forwards outmanned.

On top of this our mids and backs lack the speed to break the lines or burst away from the packs, therefore they revert to the get out of jail handball. Not sure it's the game plan, just what they do when under pressure and lacking confidence.

Too many want to give it off and go backward as opposed to take responsibility and take the game on.
Maybe it is lack of confidence, ability, leg speed???

Selection is also puzzling.

How could Bruce & Hickey play twos while the likes of DMac, Wright, Minch, Longer etc play. Yes I know they play different positions and structure. Longer is a statue after the ruck contest.

Wright must never play another senior game, he does not have the skills for AFL football.


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Post: # 1676616Post dals_da_bomb »

I laughed more than i should SainterDad.

A lot more than i should.


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Post: # 1676622Post Scollop »

We're pretending we can do it as well as the Bulldogs. Trying to play like millionaires, thinking it worked well for the Doggies last year, so maybe it can help us. Problem is we don't execute. We haven't practiced like they have for 2 years and we don't have the high draft picks they do in our midfield.


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