Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

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Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727280Post SydneySainter »

Can’t kick sodas, can’t even hit the side of a barn at the moment.

I know it’s “all between the ears,” but he’s gone from being a dead-eye dig to one of the last forwards you’d want lining up for a kick.

Maybe going back to the VFL and kicking a bag might do wonders for his confidence? In fact, maybe all our forwards could benefit from that? Why not? Season’s over and we’re not winning games with our best forwards in the team anyway.


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727284Post Trev from the Bush »

No.


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727285Post asiu »

no


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727286Post desertsaint »

purely mental. and whatever dixon is doing isn't helping. need a far better mentor or a good sports psychologist. in the end it'll be when he stops worrying so much about his kicking.


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727289Post bigcarl »

No. He needs to kick straight. That said, there is a lot of pressure on being the guy who, more so than anyone else, is expected to convert in this side.


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727296Post asiu »

not sure i should do this
but
its never stopped me before
so

let me channel biggus martus for a second

besides the odd tabletennis pennant
my 'sporting moment'
was leaving the runners up and joining the bottom side

duck duck goldenduck duck goldenduck 100 no were my first 6 innings for my new side
(can u imagine)
('n i went as an opening bowler)

we won that game then went on a winning streak


the game before the finals we played my ex side
win and we were in

an incident took place whilst i was batting that led to my dismissal ... and i got the s***s

we'd been bowled out for f*** all

i personally bowled that team of cocksuckers out for less ... took 7

next game ... we played em again in a knockout final

i personally (and eff did i enjoy it) bowled em out again
and the boys got the runs

won the next and made the granny

and here's the moral of the story

i never bowled worse in my life
took 1 wicket with an away swinging full toss that should gone into the next suburb

but the boys
who were the easybeats of seasons past
believed
... batted bowled and fielded like cricketers
and won themselves a Cup

it turns

keep getting back on the horse
it turns.

members will be a Saints Legend before his time is over

it will turn


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727299Post thejiggingsaint »

ABSOLUTELY he does ! I'm amazed sometimes at posters who crap on about "tolerating mediocrity" and then say this guy shouldn't be subject to some accountability


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Post: # 1727300Post The_President »

We are terrible when we go forward and Membrey was often out numbered or had to burn someone on a lead.

In a low scoring game he could've kicked 6-7 if he kicked well.

Why the F*ck would we drop him?


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727302Post Goose is king »

No


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727305Post prwilkinson »

The_President wrote:We are terrible when we go forward and Membrey was often out numbered or had to burn someone on a lead.

In a low scoring game he could've kicked 6-7 if he kicked well.

Why the F*ck would we drop him?
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Post: # 1727306Post SydneySainter »

The_President wrote:We are terrible when we go forward and Membrey was often out numbered or had to burn someone on a lead.

In a low scoring game he could've kicked 6-7 if he kicked well.

Why the F*ck would we drop him?
Because his kicking, along with Billings and Gresh has become a huge problem and the longer it continues, the more it will continue to affect their confidence.

Their kicking is currently not to AFL standard, so why should they be given game time because of what they could’ve kicked?

A stint in the VFL, where they would likely dominate may at least help their confidence.

I say why not? We’re keep getting beat with them in the side as it is.


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727310Post Joffa Burns »

As Scout Ernie Capidino said to Kit Keller, "I don't want you, I want the one who it the ball"

In this instance at least Membrey is winning the ball, despite being outmanned on many instances.
He can turn poor kicking around, but don't make him the scapegoat.

Drop players whose effort is severely lacking such as Billings before Membrey.


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727312Post thejiggingsaint »

Drop him too!


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Post: # 1727315Post The_President »

SydneySainter wrote:
The_President wrote:We are terrible when we go forward and Membrey was often out numbered or had to burn someone on a lead.

In a low scoring game he could've kicked 6-7 if he kicked well.

Why the F*ck would we drop him?
Because his kicking, along with Billings and Gresh has become a huge problem and the longer it continues, the more it will continue to affect their confidence.

Their kicking is currently not to AFL standard, so why should they be given game time because of what they could’ve kicked?

A stint in the VFL, where they would likely dominate may at least help their confidence.

I say why not? We’re keep getting beat with them in the side as it is.

Wait, so a man who is a very accurate kick historically should be dropped because he's got the yips at the moment?

Forget the fact that he is pretty much the ONLY forward we have that can not only take a mark but win a one on one contest.

Forget the fact that our ball movement going forward is horrible and it's usually just kicked on top of his head for 2-3 opponents to come across and belt him

Forget the fact that we have players running around right now giving zero effort.

Lets drop him because he missed some shots at goal... NO ONE IN THE TEAM CAN KICK STRAIGHT, AT LEAST HE MAKES A BLOODY CONTEST AND TAKES A MARK

FFS Saintsational is going stir crazy. Just sack the coach already and get a fresh voice down there, you'll see a complete 180


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727334Post older saint »

No way , 1.5 terrible kicking but 6 opportunities and only one there to take contested marks and be an experienced target forward.
Plenty should go before him - Billings, Newness, Weller to name 3.


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727335Post saynta »

SydneySainter wrote:Can’t kick sodas, can’t even hit the side of a barn at the moment.

I know it’s “all between the ears,” but he’s gone from being a dead-eye dig to one of the last forwards you’d want lining up for a kick.

Maybe going back to the VFL and kicking a bag might do wonders for his confidence? In fact, maybe all our forwards could benefit from that? Why not? Season’s over and we’re not winning games with our best forwards in the team anyway.
Why not? Why should he.


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727616Post Enrico_Misso »

A better solution is for him to take out an intervention order against Ben Dixon.


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Post: # 1727640Post Linton Lodger »

That did cross my mind, but what would be the point?

He wasn't 100% fit in the first couple of games after his return and on Saturday his form was good aside from his kicking for goal! He should have kicked 5 or 6, easily!


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727647Post Crossy66 »

Going back to the VFL wont improve his accuracy, so no point. Other than kicking, he is one of our best.
Who is knocking the door down at Sandy anyway?
Most of these blokes can kick a footy well, but cant seem to execute when:
a/ there are white sticks involved
b/ under extreme pressure around the field
c/ when they have to make a quick decisions

Somehow they need to train with gameday intensity to get used to practicing under real pressure.
Also need a shrink to help with their thought processes and confidence.

Kick straight and eliminate turnovers and we aren't a bad team.


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727654Post degruch »

No. Regularly gets 5-7 shots at goal every game and provides a target...who else does? Just kick straight Skunk!


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727661Post resaintlee »

Why not pick a rangey backman from the Zebs, who has never spoken to Ben Dixon, and stick him in front of the sticks. He may well kick better and his behaviour won't be as predictable.


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727680Post stonecold »

No, the only player capable of taking a mark!!!!!


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727681Post parkeysainter »

No. These current crop of players just have to work through this and keep at it. Don't let them off their s*** form. Membrey kicked 2.0 last week so its all upstairs.

Its all mental. Its basically the same side as 2016 and 2017.


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Post: # 1727684Post 6621104 »

Membrey will get no benefit in the two's, but one who should be dropped is Dunstan, and he should not be elevated until he can improve his field kicking. Someone who gets a lot of the ball yet we do not get the advantage of it as so often his kicks compound pressure, not relieve it. Let him practice in the twos where he will get tons of possies to improve. If he cannot then we should trade him. watch the last half of the Freo game if you disagree.


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Re: Does Membrey need a spell in the VFL?

Post: # 1727685Post Mr Magic »

Billings, when he had to act instinctively, delivered 2 beautiful passes during the game. he had no time to think about the kicks .

I have absolutely no doubt that the yips are in the players' heads and that each week it just builds more pressure on them.
I reckon it will eventually resolve itself.
All of the guys mentioned with the yips were very good kicks at some stage, so they obviously have the ability.

IMHO it's not a technique problem - It's in their heads
Forget Dixon - whoever is the 'psychologist at the Club needs to fix it or be replaced.


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